Power Meters / Powermeters (SRM, Powertap, Quarq, Ergomo, Vector, Stages, power2max, P2M, 4iii, InPower, Cinch)

You could use Stages as a dick measuring device. I wouldn't try the same with Powertap though. Spokes and dicks don't mix.

sold #FickleJB

Currently just riding the training chinvelo with novatec wheelset

Nah, it's just really draggy. If a pawl was out it'd more likely be sloppy engaging. I'm hoping it's because it's brand new the seals are tight. Getting tired of taking cassettes on and off bikes every second fucking day though.

No, you can get your lazy arse out west. Last time I carried it in it sat in the office for a year.

Okay, maybe from Liverpool Street if I'm feeling generous one day.

@hippy Interested in the power book if Amey doesn't want it, and you can post :-)

Sorry, don't do post offices unless strictly necessary. Itz da Cityz innit

FTP is a great number for personal use. But I wouldnt worry too much about its values against others. The guys I ride with have at least 40w each on me. But I'd still race them. Its a good metric. But thats all it is, a single metric.

A PM + the 'training with a power meter book' is about the best investment you can make. If you want to get betterer. So definitely read the book.

I'm weighing up a powermeter versus a Kickr+Trainer Road, winter training for the use of.

That would be for targeted workouts - intervals etc as well as lots of base miles on the road.

Anyone got one? Care to comment?

332W FTP and 219W 1 day power isn't bad.

Oh..

Thats a nice FTP and all. But that 1 day power is massive. Feck me.
I averged 130w for 20 hours, and felt pretty smug about it.

Dont you already own several power meters? Why not use one of them instead of buying a whole new thing?

It's the controllable resistance that appeals - i.e. set it to 300 watts, or use trainer-road/similar to create a whole workout.

To be honest, a) I like gadgets and b) anything that might make using the trainer a bit more fun appeals.

It's also meant to be very quiet, which in a flat is an appealing thing.

My mother would say that you have more money than sense.

I looked at trainer road etc but it just seems a bit like turning training into a computer game and involves a bunch of faff. That said its probable better than paying for TP - which I am doing, without really getting anything from it.

Does your mother know how much I can buy a Kickr for?

I normally follow a plan for a trainer workout anyway - having the machine do it, with programmed resistance for set times etc rather than me using a stopwatch hung off the bars seems like less faff.

That said, setting up for a turbo session always seems to involve a lot of buggering about no matter how simple it's meant to be - find the towel, where's the water bottle gone, why is the stopwatch not in the HR strap box etc etc.

Did you never stick workouts on your garmin for turbo use? programmable to do all the counting down for you, including alerts if you're going to hard or too slow in speed/cadence/heart rate/power/anything else it measures, as well as telling you what each stage of the plan is for.

If its complicated i just write it down on a post it and hit the lap timer. Otherwise I just remember it (2x20 not that hard to remember) and use the timer for splits.

Did you never stick workouts on your garmin for turbo use? programmable to do all the counting down for you, including alerts if you're going to hard or too slow in speed/cadence/heart rate/power/anything else it measures, as well as telling you what each stage of the plan is for.

No, when I was doing a lot of turbo I had a wired SRM that wouldn't talk to a Garmin.

For the first time in a long time I've just commuted this week, and because I'm a massive nerd I record it all.

7 hours and 51 minutes, 98.8 miles, 410 TSS (although that's with the malfunctioning SRM, so take with a pinch of salt).

So that's "background activity" as it were, anything I do in terms of running, cycling or swimming is in addition to that.

Programming was a ball ache last time I tried. What have changed?

No idea, haven't done it since my 705 days but didn't find it much of a struggle then. You can probably do it in some 'friendly' garmin connect interface now.

Trainer road rocks.

Thought I'd lose interest when I got a proper PM. But it still makes indoor training bareable for me.

Serious question.

If I have a P2M, which does power and cadence, and a garmin with GPS. Do I need the speed sensor I run? I installed it because I was under the impression it was more accurate than GPS speed/distance.

I didn't bother fitting one to the bike with a P2M.

You'd need it for use on the turbo though.

Cheers. I only care about power and cadence on the turbo. I'm pretty sure I fitted it for the turbo. Buy as I've never looked at distance or speed there. I'll rremove it.

I got one of these. Never worked properly, especially on the resistence mode, tried various smartphones, it was just a bit shit. Ended up sending it back. Obviously. Felt like wahoo were using their consumers to test the product.

I use GSC-10 for speed (and cadence) mainly because I dont trust the GPS speed readings. When you search for speed and cadence sensor its says 'Speed and Cadence sensor found' and then 'Powermeter found' which means garmin uses GSC-10 for cadence even with P2M. On the other bike I have Bontrager duotrap; havent tested with it yet though.