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• #1202
I had a complex series of swaps, sales, and purhases lined up. To turn my 3D 110 rotors, with 34/50 Q-rings into a 3D+ P2M, with 36/52 QXL rings.
Then it vanished......
:(
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• #1203
Yeah I'm pretty sure a guy from my club bought that. Sorry guys.
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• #1204
^^^^Me too.
I never know if I think it was worth it, untill after Ive won/lost though.
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• #1205
:(
To be frank. Im still unsure about moving to 170mm from 165mm.
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• #1206
^^^^me too.
I never know if i think it was worth it, untill after ive won/lost though.
7:6 6:7 7:6
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• #1207
power2max Type S orders starting Tuesday 3rd December 10:00 CET
The time has come! We are starting to accept orders for the new Type S starting Tuesday 3rd December at 10:00 CET. You can make sure to be one of the first to receive the new Type S power meter. We will accept orders now and confirm them in January, with more information on the delivery date. Deliveries are planned to start in February. Type S orders will be filled on a first-come first-served basis and demand is high. So the earlier you order the earlier you will get your new Type S!
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• #1208
^From P2M newsletter/email
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• #1209
Not on their website?
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• #1210
http://www.power2max.de/europe/en/produkt-kategorie/power-meters-en/
There, but not there.
Oh 10:00 CET? What is CET, from a German company. Bloody america.
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• #1211
http://www.power2max.de/europe/en/power2max-type-s-2/
They're early.
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• #1212
Anyone know what the system weight is on P2Max w/ S-Works cranks versus my current setup of Powertap with S-Works cranks?
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• #1213
Anyone know what the system weight is on P2Max w/ S-Works cranks versus my current setup of Powertap with S-Works cranks?
For S-type they claim an extra 122g for a 130 bcd. So if you go from PT G3 at 325, to a DA 9000 at 247g. You're adding 44g.
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• #1214
So 122g over whatever is on the bike vs. 325g (- existing hub weight) = no farkin idea.
I have the old style hubs and I'm just wondering if the G3 is lighter than the S-Type? Guess it comes down to hub choice.
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• #1215
Think of it this way.
The G3 will be the lighter option unless you go below 200g in a replacement rear hub. Which is weight weenie territory. I used a DA9000 hub as a decent example.
Its as close as to make no difference though. It really depends where you want your PM.
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• #1216
I have my credit card out, and am playing the shopping cart game with a 970euro PM. :S
Nearly completed the order but need to see what my 200 extra euros actually buy me.
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• #1217
Oh 10:00 CET? What is CET, from a German company. Bloody america.
Central European Time.
Not quite sure what that has to do with the septics.
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• #1218
When I upgrade my PM, I want a lighter option.
If I move to crank power and run a full disc rear then I'm probably going to end up with a lighter setup than running the G3 + spokes, rim, wheel covers. -
• #1219
When I upgrade my PM, I want a lighter option.
If I move to crank power and run a full disc rear then I'm probably going to end up with a lighter setup than running the G3 + spokes, rim, wheel covers.A zipp disc is 935g for a 900.
A PT G3 HED disc is 1379g.
A PT G3 32 spoke alu rear is 1044g (clincher). I guess covers arent exactly light.
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• #1220
Super-9 Carbon Clincher is 1175g
I wouldn't buy a PT disc.
AeroJacket are supposedly 300-400g. RalTech do lighter carbon ones - maybe 200g
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• #1221
Super-9 Carbon Clincher is 1175g
I wouldn't buy a PT disc.
I just chucked that in for comparison.
Are wheel covers really 400g?
Super-9 + P2M S-works spider added weight = 1175 + 122 = 1297g
G3 alu wheel + covers = 1044 + 400 = 1444gReally not that much. Weight wont decide this one. The cadence feature of the P2M is neat, and you get guesstimated left/right data. But ultimately it depends on the flexibility of each option. Sounds like you have enough PT wheels to make that a mute point though.
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• #1222
Cadence feature? I don't really use cadence - I know how fast I pedal and PT has an estimated cadence anyway.
Left/Right isn't an issue, only care about total power - if I'm crooked or something, it'll soon show up with a little built-in feature I have called pain.
Yep, plenty of PTs, but I'm planning upgrades and weight is becoming an issue. Mine especially :)
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• #1223
The P2M has an accelerometer to give a real time cadence reading, as opposed to the the guesstimate based on a single magnet.
I'd say P2M if you have PTs for other bikes anyway. But weight, features, and flexibility all seem a bit unimportant.
Toss a coin?
147g extra weight is almost 3 snickers bars in the back pocket.
P2M + 3 snickers bars or a PT wheel + cover?
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• #1224
a moot point
ftfy.
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• #1225
The P2M has an accelerometer to give a real time cadence reading, as opposed to the the guesstimate based on a single magnet.
I'd say P2M if you have PTs for other bikes anyway. But weight, features, and flexibility all seem a bit unimportant.
Toss a coin?
147g extra weight is almost 3 snickers bars in the back pocket.
P2M + 3 snickers bars or a PT wheel + cover?
I think PT cadence is based off torque pulses.
I guess I'm looking at crank power + disc as a way to shed a bit of rotating weight from the bike and since the G3 now requires a different head unit, there's nothing tying me to the LYC.
I have a Powertap SL+ and a wired SRM* on Hollowgram SIs that I can sell.