• Being an imperfect person, when I am behind a cyclist/group of cyclists that could have been overtaken repeatedly had the cyclist/s shown just a little bit of consideration for me, I get ratty and irritable. My patience starts to wear thin from about the third passing opportunity that has been 'blocked'.

    .

  • sigh.

    No, I am very happy to sit behind a cyclist, with plenty of space between us, for as long as it takes for an opportunity to arise for me to overtake the cyclist safely. I'm happy to do this for however long it takes.

    but like I said, it'll run and run, whatever she says

  • something you should know: this forum is

    Yes ... you see quite a bit of that with forums in general.

    I knew going into it, during the time I spent contemplating whether to make the post or not, that some folk would relish the opportunity to make needless pot shots, but I fortunately have an extremely thick skin.

    I do want people to think about various things from a different perspective for a bit, as well as their own, and that seems to be happening a little, so its all good.

  • I knew going into it, during the time I spent contemplating whether to make the post or not, that some folk would relish the opportunity to make needless pot shots, but I fortunately have an extremely thick skin.

    I'm very sorry if you think I'm taking potshots, that wasn't the impression I wanted to give, I just wondered what road it was that you were delayed for several miles behind a cyclist was.

  • I think you should commute on a bicycle for a fair period of time before call cyclists out for things that you would understand completely if you cycled.

    Should cyclists have to commute by car for a fair period of time before they can call out what they see as bad driving ?

  • Should cyclists have to commute by car for a fair period of time before they can call out what they see as bad driving ?

    No,because the risk posed by cyclists is neglible. The danger comes from motor vehicles so it's the drivers of motor vehicles who should increase awareness.

  • sigh.

    but like I said, it'll run and run, whatever she says

    of course it will run and run, here on a cycling forum we have a point of view expressed by a driver who has no clue about the point of view of a cyclist but makes some assumptions from the seat of a car, and goes on to express a variety of contradictory opinions, what do you expect?

  • of course it will run and run, here on a cycling forum we have a point of view expressed by a driver who has no clue about the point of view of a cyclist but makes some assumptions from the seat of a car, and goes on to express a variety of contradictory opinions, what do you expect?

    And who doesn't even know if her vehicle's road legal.

  • ^this is the icing on the cake for me.
    Still, how many people posting on this thread ride brakeless?
    People in glass houses.....

  • of course it will run and run, here on a cycling forum we have a point of view expressed by a driver who has no clue about the point of view of a cyclist but makes some assumptions from the seat of a car, and goes on to express a variety of contradictory opinions, what do you expect?

    I would suggest that she posted here in the hope of learning about the point of view of a cyclist. And what she is learning is that many of them would rather have an argument. A point of view is much more effective when not expressed agressively.

  • And what she is learning is that many of them would rather have an argument. .

    No she isn't.

  • ^this is the icing on the cake for me.
    Still, how many people posting on this thread ride brakeless?
    People in glass houses.....

    Brakes are for pussies and women.

    Joking

  • not angry. More..peckish.
    The two are indistinguishable for me.

  • I think you should commute on a bicycle for a fair period of time before call cyclists out for things that you would understand completely if you cycled.

    I have not launched an attack on cyclists, I have merely mentioned how, as a non-cyclist, I perceive the various things that cyclists do or do not do. I cannot imagine, why or how, a cyclist being aware of what makes a non-cyclist driver happy, and what makes a non-cyclist driver frustrated can be a bad thing?

    I have tried this cycling thing. I did not learn to ride a bike as a child, when I started trying to ride a bike as an adult, things did not go well. There is a point when you need to call it quits, lick your multiple wounds and give up on it. The tales of those attempts are better suited to an evening in the pub than in text.

  • As has been said above, window tint is not part of the MOT so unless you have used a photometer under controlled circumstances and can prove that the window lets in at 70% of the light from the test source then no, your vehicle isn't road legal at all.

    You need to re-read the post you're relying on for information, since you seem to have gleaned only misinformation from it. The 70% applies to windows to the side of the driver, not any side or rear window behind him.

    Meanwhile, this option is going to add <£1 per month to my payments, money well spent


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  • I have not launched an attack on cyclists, I have merely mentioned how, as a non-cyclist, I perceive the various things that cyclists do or do not do. I cannot imagine, why or how, a cyclist being aware of what makes a non-cyclist driver happy, and what makes a non-cyclist driver frustrated can be a bad thing?

    I have tried this cycling thing. I did not learn to ride a bike as a child, when I started trying to ride a bike as an adult, things did not go well. There is a point when you need to call it quits, lick your multiple wounds and give up on it. The tales of those attempts are better suited to an evening in the pub than in text.

    Hello Mrs Earthloop!

    I wondered if you could name the road you get delayed on for several miles behind cyclists?

  • No she isn't.

    yes she is

  • TBF as cyclists we're already acutely aware of what makes non-cyclist drivers frustrated, viz: cyclists.

  • And other drivers. They wind up drivers an absolute treat.

  • Being an imperfect person, when I am behind a cyclist/group of cyclists that could have been overtaken repeatedly had the cyclist/s shown just a little bit of consideration for me, I get ratty and irritable.

    This is completely fair enough. Anyone who claims they never get irritable when their progress is delayed by someone slower than them is lying. Slow pavement walkers. Buses. cement trucks. crowds in train stations. nodders weaving across the road. What distinguishes us is how we react to these situations.

  • TBF as cyclists we're already acutely aware of what makes non-cyclist drivers frustrated: low-viz cyclists.

    ;)

  • It's a war out there, I'm telling you.

  • war

  • no it isn't

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