SSCX Only!

The forks move up and back when they compress. Not forward. They have crappy bushings and wobble. They have a falling compression ratio. Historically a fun fork. But hardly functional.

With a wheelbase that short and steep headtube you're going to feel like you're falling over the front wheel.

Anyway I'm not going to get any further involved an an armchair frame building debate, but this is just ridiculous.

Sorry, pal, but it's *you *who has no fucking clue.

I have these forks right in front of me. Even the biggest retard should be able to see that these forks move up and forward when compressing.
Just for you, brightidea (love your nickname, fits really well), another link to show you the concept more clearly:
http://fotos.mtb-news.de/f/s4/yx/s4yxx4bsdq9i/large_IMG_3240Large.JPG

And by the way, these forks have delicate bearings, yes, but they don't wobble if you know how to service them. The technical concept is still very interesting and suitable for city purposes. And with just around 60mm suspension you will definitely not fall over the bars. Learn how to brake, it's worth it.

A bigger tyres with wide rims set at a lower pressure would make a bigger difference, especially with a normal fork that'll shave off 1kg easily.

Having said that, it is your bike, and if you want to go for that Paris-Roubaix look, go for it.

I might go for 700x40 or even 42, still considering that, too. Can't, forks have been chopped to 700x35 already.

By the way, the forks weigh 1240 grams (just put them on the scale), I don't think you will be able to shave off a whole kg. The AMP are still lighter than many of todays suspension forks, that's another special thing about them.
A normal fork would save 500-700 grams, not as much as you would hope.

jetski, do it.
saw this one at my school a few years ago and loved it.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/736040/ostro.jpg

Might put some susp forks on my one, that looks like fun :)

By the way, the forks weigh 1240 grams (just put them on the scale)

I must says that is pretty impressive for a (kinda) suspension fork, weight about as much as a high tensile steel fork.

I still think a normal fork would be fine with ample clearance, you can always find a fork that can take up to 42mm (like the Spesh Trigger Sport tyres).

Update, brought the day one disc on Saturday, 30 mile run in ride on Sunday and felt good, 8 mile commute today and a silly 12 miles home tonight, gear ratio feels a bit spinny on my commute (42-18) have got a 16t I'm going to swap it for, then maybe a 44up front after that, lots of hooligan fun in the trees tonight, not the lightest but feels like it can handle most things, I'm still grinning with ride sore legs here..

Sorry, pal, but it's *you *who has no fucking clue.

I have these forks right in front of me. Even the biggest retard should be able to see that these forks move up and forward when compressing.
Just for you, brightidea (love your nickname, fits really well), another link to show you the concept more clearly:
http://fotos.mtb-news.de/f/s4/yx/s4yxx4bsdq9i/large_IMG_3240Large.JPG

And by the way, these forks have delicate bearings, yes, but they don't wobble if you know how to service them. The technical concept is still very interesting and suitable for city purposes. And with just around 60mm suspension you will definitely not fall over the bars. Learn how to brake, it's worth it.

You should look closely at that image and decide whether the links form a perfect parallelogram.

I must says that is pretty impressive for a (kinda) suspension fork, weight about as much as a high tensile steel fork.

Yeah isn't it? That's one reason why I like them so much. Their whole concept is really cool and unique, but they do not fit in modern times where people demand >100mm suspension and downhill ruggedness etc.
The AMP was really expensive with it's cnc-milled parts, completely in the tradition of Paul/Phil stuff.
No one would pay that price today for a fork that is only suitable for the city.

You should look closely at that image and decide whether the links form a perfect parallelogram.

I see very well what you mean. Nonetheless, you are wrong, the wheel is not going backwards. It's more about the fork blades becoming more upright, which is compensated by the forward movement.

Hi.
At the moment I'm using default Pompino with standart fork. For a while I'm thinking about replacing pompino steel fork with Kinesis carbon CX fork. Is it worth it? How does the Kinesis fork feel ?

90% city (rough city = berlin, i.e. lots of cobble stone, roads of **very **varying quality, high kerbstones), 10% woods (tiergarten - yes it's a park, but not a british nice smooth garden-like park, more like actual woods)

come on, you're talking about berlin, not brandenburg

in brandenburg I wouldn't cycle but swim

I really fail to see the point in putting bro pro geo and a vintage suspension fork on a cross bike.

I really fail to see the point...

Guess where we are?

You just want to start a trend don't you? So in de next few years Low Profile frames will be more sought after than track frames and everybody will be riding around with Suspension forks in them.

Should probably get some of these.


Lauf TR29 MTB Suspension Fork - YouTube

Only $900!

Legit.

Now you're talking.

This is not the front suspension cyclocross thread. Jetski, make a current project thread. :)

Any suggestions about Kinesis carbon CX fork? Or should I just buy chinese carbon CX frame/fork and sell pompino?

woodz, you need to work out what the geometry consequences are. Like are the axle-crown measurement comparable and what will the new trail be?

Hulsroy switched to a carbon fork on his pompino but it made it more sluggish as the a-c was far longer on the new fork thereby increasing his trail.

A lighter bike is always nice, and the carbon forks will most likely be stiffer as well.

I noticed, that Kinesis fork is 10mm higher, so the headtube angle will be even more slack. Steering is really safe with standard fork, You need to be really aggressive to push it

woodz,
i'm using the kinesis cx fork on my pomp and can't fault it.
looks like this,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78155026@N06/10560753095/

Stick with fork around the 395mm range, at least 45mm (or more) rake should maintain similar handling.

Stock pomp fork is 390mm A-C ( just checked their page ) and kinesis is 405mm , so even more than 10mm ...

Fork looks really great )
Willo1000, if You were using stock fork for some time, how do You compare it to Kinesis?