Weight weenie bike on a budget, this should be interesting

The Vigo have a track fork, simply changing it for a road fork solved your weight weenie issue.

Nerged for being a homophobic thought.

thx for the principia, i will look it up!

and where u got the weights from ?

I owned an original Principia RSL track from new and although it's only a memory I'm sure it weighed around 1400g. The road RSL frame was a claimed 1150g. These where serious pieces of kit in the 1990s. They were built in Denmark with custom grade aluminium tubing to Principia spec and anodised to save paint weight and give a more durable finish.

Today's Principia is a different company to the original since they went broke but they are claiming a similar weight for the Evolution Track

Oh! I forgot about the removing the paint thing to save like 100g :D

Wouldnt Do it on the look tho.......

And just changing to a roadfork on a trackbike doesnt always work ;)

Why not? make it more suited to ride on the road, especially on the descent.

Geometry ?!

You could just as well get a 8000€ -6kg roadbike :)

I like roadbikes, and of course for the comfort, riding from A to B its better in almost everything than a trackbike.......but even if i ride roadbike i barely ever change gears so its kinda usless for me.....real brakes are a very nice thing goin downhill tho ;)

You could just as well get a 8000€ -6kg roadbike :)

I like roadbikes, and of course for the comfort, riding from A to B its better in almost everything than a trackbike.......but even if i ride roadbike i barely ever change gears so its kinda usless for me.....real brakes are a very nice thing goin downhill tho ;)

I didn't says add a derailleur did I? Just a road fork on a track frame.

u cant put a roadfork on the look! and even if you could .......

anyway, i dont want to discuss.

also i just bought the look for 500 and its one of the stiffest frames i know :)

super light hub/wheel recomendations are welcome ....

oh, or a light chain, dont know what izumi weights.....got the miche now, but its shit and heavy

anybody used a tire below 200g thats kind of ok to ride fixed ? (i dont do whipskids or shit, so the usually last a while)

Mack Superlight (low flange) + KinLin XR-200 rims should be pretty light(ish) wheelset. Spoke count something between 20-28 on the front and for the rear 24-32.
I got Mack Superlight (28/32) hubs and Alpha 340 rims with Revolutions and they weight aprx. 1380g w/o lockring.

For 1/8" chain Sram PC-1 is pretty light(ish), but it will stretch pretty quickly. If you change for the 3/32 drivetain you can also loose some weight with it.

1400 for front and rear sounds sweet! What spokes did u Use? And how much $$$ ? :)
the Roms look "heavy" tho....or lets say.....i think h+son archetype or mavic open pro would be lighter....

I was thinkin about doin 20/28 with 1,8 to 1,4mm spokes....no idea how much it would weight and if it would really last/be stiff.

A friend tried 28 instead of 32 on his rear and said he couldn't feel any difference.....

Mack fixed/fixed superlight, Sapim CX-Ray, Kinlin XR200 28h: 712g including 1 lockring, bolts and rim tape


Mack road front, Sapim CX-Ray, Kinlin XR200 20h: 578g including skewer and rim tape

Plenty stiff for my 80kg

anybody used a tire below 200g thats kind of ok to ride fixed ? (i dont do whipskids or shit, so the usually last a while)

Dude, stop worrying about the weight, you're pretty much the perfect example of whom Hippy was talking about.

If you want low spoke cound, get the ZTR Alpha, front road hubs, rear track hubs, both low drilling (28/20), CX Ray spokes, bob your uncle, 1400-1500g.

sweet!
(the breaksurface on the rims look horrible tho ;)

thx a lot

who was talkin about what?? like i even read all this shit......

who was talkin about what?? like i even read all this shit......

example;

Weight weenies, like drillium junkies will die off eventually when they realise durability, aerodynamics, etc can be had in a pretty light package without the need for a bank loan.

Only problem is that statement is bollocks

you probably buy aerospoke cause theyre so "aerodynamic" :D

Do you REALLY think weight-weenies will die off?

Sure, why not? There's only so much you can do with a weight weenie bike, except hillclimb races.

Lighter parts are mostly not less stiff or less durable....the are just (much) more pricey. So if your Not 90+ kg fatass, its all good :) investing in aero stiff is fucking useless (exept for Track)....like you go 40km/h avarage in the City......

Please tell me more about 'aero stiff'

Do you REALLY think weight-weenies will die off?

Drillium did when people realised stiffness was more important than the weight saved. 6.8 lower limit still means weight weenies have to stick to non-UCI domestic racing, sportives, CTT TTs.

Lighter parts are mostly not less stiff or less durable....the are just (much) more pricey. So if your Not 90+ kg fatass, its all good :) investing in aero stiff is fucking useless (exept for Track)....like you go 40km/h avarage in the City......

That's rubbish. You only see less failures because there's less weight weenie parts in circulation.

You have no clue. Aerodynamic benefit occurs at ALL speeds.

http://alex-cycle.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/aero-for-slower-riders.html

Only problem is that statement is bollocks

Says the person who's had to make his weenie bike heavier because parts have failed or failed to perform.