Tour de France 2013

I read Fwume's comments as :

'Come on Berto, you're clearly not up to riding fast with the big boys, wouldn't it be better to slow down and ride within your limited capabilities and accept you're never going to win without drugs? You might hurt yourself.'

I believe the kids call it a dis.

IMO it wasn't a diss, his wet 'little more care next time' tweet was softy walter stuff.

^^ ha

People talking of watching thursday stage at the reej. Where is this mysterious reej? what is it's real name?

The Prince Regent in Herne Hill.

it's going to be rammed :(

Rammed with sports-talkers.

^ I know what I'm going to do: a hell of a lot more work...

Ditto!

Kittel doing half decent time so far in TT. Downhill bits look fun

any one know the time ( ish ) the top 20 will start today ?

I disagree, Froome can ride a bike a Contador is a cheat and useless. Contador overcooked it immediately ahead of Froome who was taking it easy knowing that he can lose 30 secs per stage from here on in and still win,

You can disagree but it doesn't make you less wrong.

If Froome was actually taking it easy he'd hardly have stumbled over his own bike trying to avoid the 'desperate actions of a doper'.

I wouldn't fancy chasing Contador down the Sarenne descent tomorrow if it's wet.

Well, the Schleck moaning will be too distracting anyway.

any one know the time ( ish ) the top 20 will start today ?

Rui Costa (currently 20th) starts at 2.36pm UK time.

Chris Froome starts at 3.33pm UK time.

Rammed with sports-talkers.

fantasists

And another thing. Peleton etiquette.

You cause a crash with the race leader. The blokes that are both of your main rivals are out ahead. The race leader has a team mate to help him back to the main rivals.

I'm no expert but I would have thought peleton etiquette would say you should do your share of the work on the chase and not freeload?

He didn't crash into Froome, he was in front of Froome and overcooked a bend. There is ZERO onus on him to help Froome do anything.

this^

Peloton etiquette doesn't really count for shit these days anyway

I disagree, Froome can ride a bike a Contador is a cheat and useless. Contador overcooked it immediately ahead of Froome who was taking it easy knowing that he can lose 30 secs per stage from here on in and still win,

You really despise Contodor don't you.
Did he overcharge you for a bottom bracket installation or something?

Is their some curse in place on the French for the hundredth edition of le Tour? J-C Peraud, who was 9th overall this morning, crashed when previewing the TT course and has injured his collarbone. Reports suggest he's out of the race.

shit news

I have nothing against Contador individually, I do think that proven cheats should be ignored to a much greater extent that they are.

Ignore someone who is up in the gc attacking the race leader? erm yeah

He was found to have a 'drug' in him which would have about the same performance effect as taking a paracetamol

And they're off...

The Prince Regent in Herne Hill.

it's going to be rammed :(

Rammed with sports-talkers.

So this or lmnhs? Which is best/worst for rammedness/beer/scotch eggs? Do lmnhs still do scotch eggs? That might swing it.

what? Scotch eggs?

I have nothing against Contador individually, I do think that proven cheats should be ignored to a much greater extent that they are.

No fan of Contador but he got done with a trace amount of clenbutorol in his system, the same thing I use for asthma (or did when I used to get it). Although anecdotally you can be pretty sure Contador was a client of Fuentes and heavily doped throughout his career (apart from this year as far as I can work out) it amounts to about the same quality of evidence that many use to point at Froome and say he's a doper.

did I miss that discussion?

Hey everyone - Jimmy says Bert is clean this year. It's official.

Yeah, but what does he say about Froome?