Forum Rider Down and/or notification of minor incidents

Handled like a boss

Did you bleed on her? I expect that would have helped

Tough break eyebrows. Glad you're ok. Shame about your wheel though.

Also:
2014-02-13 MD57YBX - YouTube

Is that you? Bike OK?

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/cyclists-killed-by-police-probe-car

Bad news again.

Were they members of lfgss and do you think that was a minor incident?

Are you the cyclist who was on an old delivery style bike intending to continue straight south in the cycle lane, when a left turning moped cut across you and appeared to clip you causing you and bike to hit the deck?

The moped slowed down, looked at you then rode off. I stopped to ask if you were OK. You seemed fine but pissed off.

As I got to the lights by Borough, the moped was just ahead pulling off. His plate was LS01 GXJ. In theory, he left the scene of an accident without stopping. Wanker.

^WAC. The recognition, slow down and decision to ride off is utterly despicable.Hope you're alright.

Is that you? Bike OK?

Yeah it's me. Fortunately it seems ok but I don't have time to properly check until Sunday eve.
The driver was pretty reasonable and actually admitted fault after I sent him a courteous text. At the scene though he and his passengers seemed not to understand that moving into a cyclist in a box whilst red was their responsibility.
One of those more-annoyed-than-injured situations that's best just talked over. Leaves the driver with a better impression of cyclists I think.

^ be careful though, saying "it's alright mate" is nice and friendly now but there's countless stories of injuries turning up later.. or worse, carbon deciding it's unhappy and cracking on you on a fast downhill.

It would be good to get some admission of liability in writing (email/paper) now to save any future aggro. Also, he did deliberately hit you with a large metal box. Is he claiming smidsy?

^^And then send him shit in the mail.

He's now retracted his admission saying "I meant to say 'I don't agree with your summary'". Sigh ...

^^ Smidsy can't really be claimed if he did it deliberately.
I'm not too sure what his defence is exactly, he seems to believe that he had a right to move forward because the ASL extends only half way across that lane, and that it was my fault for undertaking him there.

Chung I hope your alright,

As a driver I think its not your fault at all, but actually him. Looking at the footage you did nothing wrong by filtering through to the bike box junction,imo he reacted to the green light in the next lane on the left and reacted to mean 'GO' so hence why he ran into the back of you. You have a good case in terms of getting any liability damage back from you injuries and any of your bike.

Technically, he jumped the red light.

Yeah, that video is plenty of evidence. Demand payment in sexual favours.

Judging by forum standard protocol in these situations Francesco Moser's daughter Veronica will be providing inspiration.

Gah... My crash lady emailed this morning being like 'you were in the outside and not slowing down, my insurance have advised me to ask you to pay excess'.
I replied quite bluntly, pointing out the govt advice on the matter and that at no point was the fault anything but hers, and should her insurance provider follow up further, I would mount the full defence and demand a gold check up service from evans and a new front wheel, and shifters, which are now grazed.
Total ~ 300£.
Her response?
'Road tax'
Lol. I'm not paying though. And I thought she was alright.
All I wanted to do was calm her nerves, I shouldn't have emailed at all.
FFS.

It should be noted that I was indeed slowing down for a cyclist on a toucan crossing with a red light ahead, which is why I don't have a broken collarbone or equivalent.

Pass it on to your insurers.

Or just tell her to do one.

Partially/ politely did the latter. She's given up hopefully.
It's not worth the insurers efforts.

It's worth noting, however that "liability in accidents involving filtering vehicles tend to result in ... split liability decisions".

If this had done to court, it's quite possible that liability would have been split 50 / 50

It's not filtering as I read it, she was flashed and didn't bother to check for traffic in the second lane.

He's now retracted his admission saying "I meant to say 'I don't agree with your summary'". Sigh ...

^^ Smidsy can't really be claimed if he did it deliberately.
I'm not too sure what his defence is exactly, he seems to believe that he had a right to move forward because the ASL extends only half way across that lane, and that it was my fault for undertaking him there.

Your vid seems pretty conclusive - he crossed a stop line on a red light and caused an accident - so I'd want to say the courts would be bound to side with you.

But feel nervous given the inexplicable hatred of cyclists in the legal system..

It's not filtering as I read it, she was flashed and didn't bother to check for traffic in the second lane.

Yep, even if the lorry flashed, she should be more careful;

Highway Code 110
Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.

Highway Code 111
Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

Yup eyebrows. Sounds like you're fully in the right and she's a fool. As others have said, totally her responsibility for not checking for all oncoming traffic.

I'm fine thanks Hoke.
I don't want to take anyone to insurance/court as there isn't any major damage that I can see (this might change once I give it a proper lookover). Scuffed bar tape at most.

My intention is to get him to realise that he was in the wrong and therefore drive more carefully and considerately, especially around cyclists. Claiming for tiny amounts of money is likely to make him resentful and therefore a more dangerous road user.

Any suggestions? I've sent him video and a shot of the junction but he still denies wrongdoing. Is there any hope of a conversion?

Best thing to do is file a police report of a road collision.

My intention is to get him to realise that he was in the wrong and therefore drive more carefully and considerately, especially around cyclists. Claiming for tiny amounts of money is likely to make him resentful and therefore a more dangerous road user.

Any suggestions? I've sent him video and a shot of the junction but he still denies wrongdoing. Is there any hope of a conversion?

As above, get this on the records.

I don't think you can 'convert' - people have got away with shoddy driving for years. Most won't admit fault, either.

I'm of the 'hit them where it hurts' camp. That they'll drive more dangerously in future is conjecture. How much of your bike is carbon, or is now scuffed up? They can pay for having it all replaced.