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Iain omitted the word 'supersonic' for reasons unknown.
Conti GP Supersonics, 140g claimed weight. Also do a supersonic innertube, butyl, claimed weight 50g.
Doesnt matter what i omitted, its not suitable for long rides is it?

They have puncture protection?

The Ultremo ZX weigh 190g (slightly lighter than the claimed weight of 195) and apparently have decent puncture protection. That's the sort of tyre I'd be thinking about. They're meant to roll well too.

Same with those saddles I posted. But they look fucking great.

I've always thought the tune speedneedles looked awful :/

Doesnt matter what i omitted, its not suitable for long rides is it?

The GP and the GP Supersonics are different tyres, so it does matter. And they're fine for long rides, just depends on the roads ;)

Iain omitted the word 'supersonic' for reasons unknown.
Conti GP Supersonics, 140g claimed weight. Also do a supersonic innertube, butyl, claimed weight 50g.

Ah, iain must not be aware of the different flavours of conti tyre. Much to learn he has young padawan.

Doesnt matter what i omitted, its not suitable for long rides is it?

They're perfectly suited to long rides, conversely they're not suited to riding London's glass strewn roads.
What you buy now depends on what you're using the bike for and what other purchases you have lined up;

Real rides + future clincher wheelset = buy light & expensive
Real rides + future tubular wheelset = save a bit of cash on tyres now go for something lightish but cheaper
Mainly London riding + future clincher = save a bit of cash on tyres now go for something lightish, with added puncture protection
Mainly London riding + future tubular wheelset = Dammit

Puncture protection =25g

243 miles on the Sprinter Gatorskins now in 26 days, all London riding, two punctures both of which were fixed using PitStop.

Didn't have to take the wheel out of the frame, much less the tyre off the rim.

Dunno how many miles I have on the Competitions on the road bike since I got them, but all of those mile have been out of London rides such as ROTFL, and I've so far not had a puncture.

two punctures both of which were fixed using PitStop..
You're going to end up on solid tyres pretty soon.

two punctures in a month isn't great on presumably new tyres

Just checked, 310 miles on the Competitions.

Laner- no, I agree, but thems the breaks- both were large bits of flint/glass, I think they'd have killed any reasonably light, fast rolling tyre, but that is supposition.

The Ultremo ZX weigh 190g (slightly lighter than the claimed weight of 195) and apparently have decent puncture protection. That's the sort of tyre I'd be thinking about. They're meant to roll well too.
OOOooo... They come in colours! I can make the bike even uglier! How about red? then no-one will be able to tell our bikes apart!

They're perfectly suited to long rides, conversely they're not suited to riding London's glass strewn roads.
What you buy now depends on what you're using the bike for and what other purchases you have lined up;

Real rides + future clincher wheelset = buy light & expensive
Real rides + future tubular wheelset = save a bit of cash on tyres now go for something lightish but cheaper
Mainly London riding + future clincher = save a bit of cash on tyres now go for something lightish, with added puncture protection
Mainly London riding + future tubular wheelset = Dammit
Long rides starting off riding through the streets of London (as is standard practice on LFGSS) on probably clinchers

Blouse

I really like the look of the Ultremo's for some reason. Will be getting some on the lo-pro next summer.

two punctures in a month isn't great on presumably new tyres

It's not exactly a law of average isn't it? It's not very predictable to claim a tyres is bad if it puncture so soon.

You can goes for months without puncture or several in one day.

OOOooo... They come in colours! I can make the bike even uglier! How about red? then no-one will be able to tell our bikes apart!

Great, another decision to be made, I'll check back in a week.

this thread

given it's record so far, it is not like the bike is going to be anything other than broken up and sold.

Dibs on the cranks.

They're perfectly suited to long rides

punctures came on nearly every ride, not good

Don't use them on the raod though coz they wont last too long and I reckon they would puncture easy.

Punctures, yes, but worth it.

No puncture protection.

As Conti state, there is zero puncture protection and just about anything will give you a flat

The price you pay is the tyre having a shorter lifespan - a season, say - and a greater risk of punctures, because there's no protective layer. Continental are up-front about this, recommending it for time trial use only and adding: "Riders should weigh up the compromises that they are willing to take before selecting this tyre."

etc. etc. etc.

OOOooo... They come in colours! I can make the bike even uglier! How about red? then no-one will be able to tell our bikes apart!

My bike is having black tyres (Vredestein Fortezza Tricomps, 227.5g each, for the record).

But people will be able to tell them apart anyway, as mine won't be ugly :P

But people will be able to tell them apart anyway, as mine won't be ugly :P

qfp.

etc. etc. etc.
Unless you have used them yourself you're just quoting randoms from the internet, the place were everything ever made is pulled to pieces by people who feel aggrieved that their purchase/item/experience wasn't flawless.

I speak from my personal experience of having used the tyres and in my experience they worked as I would expect any tyre of a similar weight to perform.

Nope, not used them myself, agree tyre experience is hugely subjective for many reasons. I didn't realise you'd used them.

That latter bit was more my point though, given their weight and that the manufacturer recommends them for TT use only describing them as 'perfectly suited' for long rides seems a bit, erm, optmistic.

I suppose it comes down to whether Iain is prepared to live with the possibility of more punctures for a lighter weight, or if tyres are one component choice where it makes sense to rein in his weight weenie tendencies. They do get very good reviews for weight and ride feel - I quote selectively, nearly all those reviews were actually positive overall, they were just saying expect to get punctures.

I know what I'd choose, but I hate punctures :)