Cannondale Aficionados / Owners

Both are lifetime warranties - Trek just seem to cover wear and tear - even though their policy excludes it - whereas Cannondale do not.

They don't cover wear and tear, for example a bb rebuild on a carbon frame is £150 if the customer has ridden it with a seized bearing and damaged the frame. Where as CSG has refused snapped frames 5 years old even though it's not cracked in a fatigue spot because it is outside the life time of the product.

Telling @howard that cannondales are less than perfect is like telling @hippy to use conti tyres or @saarf that not all colnagos count as bike porn.

Wonders if it's because Trek's chairman and majority shareholder is one of the original founders whereas Cannondale are owned by the conglomerate Dorel Industries ? .. just throwing that out there ..

Do you work in the industry @Howard?

I suspect it's because Trek have the high volume and high margin stuff sorted - they can afford to buy Loyalty.

I guess this is a good thing if you are a trek customer.

Cannondale cannot - they never nailed the high volume thing, never really got the economies of scale because of their historic focus on selling performance bicycles.

Or like telling James that Shimano hydraulic road disc brakes are not the future ;)

Nah I just like their approach to suspension and their early 2000s paint schemes. And their frames happen to fit me.

CSG are pretty notorious on that, its sometime depend on who's on the other end of the phone.

Can concur Trek are pretty good on their end, even let you choose between an Emonda or Domane if they no longer have the Madone.

Is there any difference between the hi mod and normal canondale frames - or is it just the weight when they come off the production line?

Hi mod is lighter...with a little more vertical compliance. I do recall reading somewhere that the 2012 supersix normal was stiffer than the himod, due to the ludicrous amount of carbon everywhere (different mold).

I have one (normal) and it rides like a brick. Can't get it to flex at all. That being said, not many people will be able to tell the difference between the ride quality of a himod and normal, they'll only be able to tell by the weight.

Edit: are you able to test ride both of them?

I've got the '12 Supersix and it is indeed stiff as a motherfucker

Yeah, it does not move at all. The BB area is gigantic compared to the HiMod. Outfit it with a pro-vibe stem/bar combo with a decent set of wheels and you have a good "muscle car" bike to play with.

I've got the superstar/reynolds carbon clinchers on there, but a pretty average stem. Will check out the pro-vibe!

Yeah, did have a deda stem on there that creaked every now an then. My bars at the moment are Pro PLT (not the vibe)...they're crazy noodly. Uphill sprint in drops I can definitely feel the bars flex. Even just standing over the bike and using your arms they flex a lot! Vibe bars will probably be my last upgrade. I'm on Flo30s, back doesn't seem to be having any brake rub which is good (but I do run them slightly more open than front) =D

damn you, I was about to pull the trigger on this the other week and boom it was gone.

Scroll down here:

http://www.cannondale.com/nam_en/2015/bikes/road/elite-road/supersix-evo/supersix-evo-hi-mod-team

About 700g vs 950g, more "high modulus" carbon and possibly internal brake cable routing.

New (discounted sale) prices:
SuperSix Evo 105 2014 complete bike about £1000.
SuperSix Hi-Mod frame set only is about £1200.

Took the CAAD out today. Still love it and unsure about going down to a 58 with Shimano.

SystemSix arrived yesterday! Can't believe it. So at the moment I have a free frame. Build pictures tonight. Meaning the Saeco CAAD6 will be up for grabs tomorrow.

Also I couldn't resist this 90's frame on the bay, and it's just been freshly painted. Thinking my woundup/chrisking/integralter combo might look good on it.

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I'm leaving the Cannondale club, relinquishing my rather tidy CAAD10 Frameset, here:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/268539/#comment12301345

First build. Think a 130mm -17* stem is needed. I'm not keen on the seatpost either. We'll see.

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That's really nice, although IMO less branding on the post/stem might make it look a bit tidier. Still tasty though

Agreed. Zipp? maybe Thomson?

Loooking good @AMAC

matching zipp seatpost/stem in beyond black would look rad

Looks great @AMAC

Thomson seatpost could be good, deffo not a stem though.

This was my thought, my wallet doesn't agree. Aha, but I may tell it to STFU.