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• #13302
Probably not applicable for road I suppose, but I went for some Santa Cruz wheels for a very similar price to what a pair of Light Bicycle ones would have been due to their lifetime no quibble warranty - just seemed to be silly to pay something like £100 less for a highly questionable, limited warranty.
That's MTB of course, but I have a pair of Enve SES 2.0 that I got largely (if I'm honest about it) because a) it was a show bike and all Enve everything is the order of the day, also because I'd called the project "death in the mountains" and wanted to run tubeless and rim brakes in the high mountains, and c) because they're both lightweight and have a lifetime warranty. They also make a nice firework noise under braking.
That bike (with EE rim brakes) and a steel frame was around 7.5kg IIRC, and it had an SMP saddle (albeit a carbon one) and first gen eTap.
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• #13303
It worked fine descending from the highest paved road in Europe, was a lot of fun.
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• #13305
No such thing as Enve 2.0
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• #13306
I personally wouldn’t bother Putting too much effort/expense into trying to make a disc brake bike any lighter 8kg, as you’ll be paying a lot of money for minimal weight savings, and as Dick says, most likely a negative effect on usability. I’d also question how noticeable the weight savings would actually be in most situations. If you ride in the high mountains a lot, fair enough.... but if you mostly ride in the lanes of Essex or something, then what’s the point?
There’s no point having a light weight bike for everyday use if it Doesn’t really work very well.
If you want a sub 7kg bike, rim brakes are your friend.
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• #13307
Sorry! Been a while since I bought them, 2.2 they are.
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• #13308
I think I got them in for you along with all the other Enve stuff for the Tintin bike! Time flys!
I’m not even sure if Enve still make the 2.2 rim TBH - it was pretty niche, as the 3.4 set was only fractionally heavier, and much more aero, so not many people bought them.... even more so these days with the popularity of discs.
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• #13309
Disc brakes are
deadheavy...Which of the big brands has a top tier 2021 rim brake option? Giant, Bianchi and Pinarello... slim pickings indeed (and those last two are a bit boutique to be considered big anyway)
Edit: Cannondale still keeping things real with the CAAD13 for now. They pretty much nailed it with the super six evo though didn’t they. That’s probably why everyone had to go discs, just to compete.
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• #13310
The fact everyone wants fully integrated cabling now has also been a big factor in the lack of top tier rim brake options these days - the routing through the bars/stem/steerer that’s required is usually so complicated it just wouldn’t work with cables... there would be so many twists and turns that the brakes just wouldn’t really work. This is one of the benefits of hydro.
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• #13311
Very true. Add in clearance and braking advantages and it’s a done deal. What’s quite impressive is how quickly the industry has pivoted. It feels like discs were on the fringes for a long time before we suddenly moved to mass adoption when the uci said ok for road.
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• #13312
My one single suggestion over and above anything would be just to ditch SRAM and go for Dura Ace....
Preach... No More SRAM.
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• #13313
Had to go and check but my caad12 with no exotic parts, LB 50mm rims, and red Etap is 8kg on the nose. It'd take a fair amount of money/compromises to get it to 7.5.
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• #13314
This is quite something
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• #13315
Giant TCR with rims is what I'd buy. Maybe a last gen supersix, sworks sl6 or some other outgoing rim braked model.
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• #13316
My SuperSix Evo HM is 6.1kg. Zipp 202 tubs, Dura Ace and Ritchey Superlogic though. It's a bike I respect greatly, but which don't really like.
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• #13317
this page confirms that rim brake is making a comeback.
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• #13318
Someone had a very inspired lockdown
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• #13319
VERY worried when any brand releases a statement such as “don’t use cotton sidewall tyres”
what's the story here?
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• #13320
I'm thinking of shipping this on, would anyone be keen 58cm caad5. Would be sold as is, excluding the wheels. Can provide the front derailleur, mount and 2x rings for it too.
Due to it's age, there are some places where the paints bubbling and the cage mounts need redoing. (That's the bad bits)
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• #13321
In what way do you respect it greatly?
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• #13322
Damn, I wish it was a 56
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• #13323
I respect the engineering and ingenuity involved in making a bike so light and stiff but still comfortable to ride and functionally excellent. It just doesn't excite me the same way some other bikes do.
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• #13324
Oddly specific question but does anyone know if it's possible to remove an SRAM hydraulic hose from a caad 12 without removing the barb? I.e. will the olive slide over the barb to allow the hose through the routing ports? I'm trying to work out if I need to order some spares or not.
Also, anyone have a red Etap flat mount caliper knocking about?
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• #13325
So first shakedown ride since basically just recommissioning this eBay find , and I cannot believe how lovely it is . Up until recently my only geared road bike was a 2015 smartweld specialized Allez frame I bought and built with 10 speed 105 and an Ultegra wheelset , the difference is incredible in how alive this feels, even with a budget parts bin build in comparison. A mate has a recent CAAD 8 with 105 and again it’s a completely different to my American frame .
And to think the reason I sold my system six was it was too uncomfortable to ride after my accident where I broke both my elbows and wrists . And hands .
Awesome , am so glad to be riding a ‘Dale again . Sorry but another pic
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And as Amey said, sub 8kg is very good for road disc, sub 7kg and there’s massive questions on usability