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• #4502
nahh, im joking! but seriously, I wasnt. I dont want to go, I dont see how that doesnt seem fair though. How do you want to decide then? whats the problem with, netto definatly having a place or a team being picked randomly?
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• #4503
ok, can we do a list for who's playing tonight?
Chan
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• #4504
im out for tonight, going to my mums.
if woody Ben and myself arnt going to be there tonight thats half the Geneva list so far so should we discuss it on Sunday?
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• #4505
nahh, im joking! but seriously, I wasnt. I dont want to go, I dont see how that doesnt seem fair though. How do you want to decide then? whats the problem with, netto definatly having a place or a team being picked randomly?
ok now your just trying to wind people up!
you honestly think the best way to determine the second manchester team to compete in the european championships is to pick the players out of a hat and put them together in a team?
in no way based on skill or if they have previously played on a team?
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• #4506
I"m playing polo this evening... Be there about 5.30pm..
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• #4507
im out for tonight, going to my mums.
if woody Ben and myself arnt going to be there tonight thats half the Geneva list so far so should we discuss it on Sunday?
yeah, sunday is fine
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• #4508
i wont be there sunday either, dissertation is in on Monday
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• #4509
so what your saying is, you just want netto and asbo to go to geneva? I dont expect anyone who isnt skilled enough to compete with the otehr teams to apply, at the moment the people who are on the list are all closley enough matched to play together.
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• #4510
so what your saying is, you just want netto and asbo to go to geneva? I dont expect anyone who isnt skilled enough to compete with the otehr teams to apply, at the moment the people who are on the list are all closley enough matched to play together.
no as i have said already, we did decide that but if people are disputing it then we can have a mini tourney play off day with the teams that want to go which as it stands would look like Netto, Asbo and ben, hannah and someone else
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• #4511
so what your saying is, you just want netto and asbo to go to geneva? I dont expect anyone who isnt skilled enough to compete with the otehr teams to apply, at the moment the people who are on the list are all closley enough matched to play together.
its a fucking moot point, we are going round in circles. If you want to come to Geneva, and you are willing to fly/train there, then make a team of people who are also willgin to get there and we will see you on the court.
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• #4512
okay, my idea seems stupid now, I was thinking more people wanted to go.
Playing tonight:
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2.Chan
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• #4513
Do you want a view point from someone outside of the Manchester polotics?
Tough shit, I'm giving you one anyway.Netto should go. Guaranteed.
They've more than shown their willing to travel to tournaments. Whether as Netto or as individuals (Thinking adam playing in Paris for Apologies Accepted here).The rest of you should really work out who wants to travel to Genevé and make a team up from that as the best players, not the luckiest picked from a hat players.
The US are having the exact same discussion with relation to the worlds right now.
http://leagueofbikepolo.com/forum/general/2010/04/15/worlds-space-distributionThey're allocating 13 spaces on merit of individual players, then throwing open their remaining 14 spaces to a lottery. Half of the community thinks that it's bullshit and should be worked out entirely on merit. The other half, are happy with the lottery.
To paraphrase Hannes, from Karlsruhe, "Some teams should go because they show willing. Something like the Euros should reserve places for the same faces who will travel to every and any tournament. They are polo".
I'm going to disappear from this discussion now but seriously think about it. Aside from being a fun trip this tournament is also about crowning the best players in Europe. I fail to see how you can claim to have sent your best players if you've picked the names out of a hat.
Additionally, there will/should be pickup for the entire weekend. As such those of you who don't place on a team should still go to Geneva because you'll still get to enjoy the trip and you'll still get to play some decent polo.
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• #4514
If you want to come to Geneva, and you are willing to fly/train there, then make a team of people who are also willing to get there and we will see you on the court.
this.
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• #4515
Do you want a view point from someone outside of the Manchester polotics?
Tough shit, I'm giving you one anyway.Netto should go. Guaranteed.
They've more than shown their willing to travel to tournaments. Whether as Netto or as individuals (Thinking adam playing in Paris for Apologies Accepted here).The rest of you should really work out who wants to travel to Genevé and make a team up from that as the best players, not the luckiest picked from a hat players.
The US are having the exact same discussion with relation to the worlds right now.
http://leagueofbikepolo.com/forum/general/2010/04/15/worlds-space-distributionThey're allocating 13 spaces on merit of individual players, then throwing open their remaining 14 spaces to a lottery. Half of the community thinks that it's bullshit and should be worked out entirely on merit. The other half, are happy with the lottery.
To paraphrase Hannes, from Karlsruhe, "Some teams should go because they show willing. Something like the Euros should reserve places for the same faces who will travel to every and any tournament. They are polo".
I'm going to disappear from this discussion now but seriously think about it. Aside from being a fun trip this tournament is also about crowning the best players in Europe. I fail to see how you can claim to have sent your best players if you've picked the names out of a hat.
Additionally, there will/should be pickup for the entire weekend. As such those of you who don't place on a team should still go to Geneva because you'll still get to enjoy the trip and you'll still get to play some decent polo.
Netto are going, that is pretty much a given. We are not choosing names out of a hat, that is also a given.
The rest of us will play for the other spot. I don't think Netto have shwon more commitment to tournaments than say me and Ste though, The only tournament they went to that i didnt, Paris and Karlsrue, i couldn't got to because of finances/final year of uni. next year will be different hopefully! -
• #4516
Netto are going, that is pretty much a given. We are not choosing names out of a hat, that is also a given.
The rest of us will play for the other spot. I don't think Netto have shwon more commitment to tournaments than say me and Ste though, The only tournament they went to that i didnt, Paris and Karlsrue, i couldn't got to because of finances/final year of uni. next year will be different hopefully!Chan was also in Munich last year and has also been to London more than most.
I'm not saying that You and Ste aren't committed. Just demonstrating that some go above and beyond.
I'm going to leave you alone now. Just wanted to proffer a different perspective from somebody who is less emotionally attached.
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• #4517
Chan was also in Munich last year and has also been to London more than most.
I'm not saying that You and Ste aren't committed. Just demonstrating that some go above and beyond.
I'm going to leave you alone now. Just wanted to proffer a different perspective from somebody who is less emotionally attached.
We all know you and Chan had a cheeky smooch when apples crashed at Chez Chan
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• #4518
That boy's been my rape bait ever since I first met him. I though he was a girl though.
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• #4519
Seems a bit illogical to me to say that people who've bin to more tournaments should automatically go to more tournaments. I'd've bin well up for karlsruhe, just didnt managed to get registered in time. Having said that I'm well aware I've been in a comedy DFL team every time I have played which is why I'm not about to get my claws out over geneva.
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• #4520
if we start counting polo miles......
no one has a problem giving netto the pass on the first spot, they are manchester's sweethearts. but we aren't going to split up teams because there is an odd number of people interested now. get 3 and play.
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• #4521
Seems a bit illogical to me to say that people who've bin to more tournaments should automatically go to more tournaments. I'd've bin well up for karlsruhe, just didnt managed to get registered in time. Having said that I'm well aware I've been in a comedy DFL team every time I have played which is why I'm not about to get my claws out over geneva.
We're not counting who'se been where, we all woulda gone to Karlsure if we could've, i think Em was just pointing out there is good reason other than skill to let Netto have the first spot.
This is all getting a bit silly, and Chan was deifnatly right saying we need to talk about it in person. I can't come out till after Monday, but I'm sure Ste knows my position well enough. We did have a few games to decide GVA when it first came up, but tht was ages ago and loads of people have improved since then, so i am more than happy to have some more games. Hannah, Ben and Scott as a team? is there anyone else that wants to come?
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• #4522
i know nothing of these team names but there's no way i'm staying vegan in fondue country!
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• #4523
If im goign to GVA I;m deff on Bishop's Finger as it was my idea haha
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• #4524
ok fuck it, im going to geneva whether or not im in a team, if im not playing ill just play lots of throw ins and get drunk and watch some great polo. Scott do you or do you not want to go to geneva? Also i think Si mentioned something about wanting to go too? Nik? Paul? Hip Replacements? If we can find 3 people up for going then lets have a best of 3 games with one of Netto as ref with tourney rules, 10 minute games...?
ill drop by whitworth on my way home to chat about this more
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• #4525
found mini-d with cantgoslo sticker.
[QUOTE]my view on teams, leave them, people can decide their own teams. my view on geneva, netto should have one place if they want of couurse, other people who want to go can put their names in a hat to make the next team?[QUOTE]
Fuck that.
Scott if you want to go to Geneva then put your name on the list, by all means. Isn't gonna be decided like that though