Furry's fat and long bikes

I don't envy you lee, such a tricky build. Though it's your own fault for starting it!

Ha!

Several months ago I did a ton of calculations, BikeCad mock ups, and comparisons with existing fatbikes. I was pretty comfortable then. Doubt has had time to creep in, is all.

I seem to remember the BigFatLarrys working without all the work arounds the Moonlander uses. Providing I used 80mm rims, a 1x drivechain, a 100mm BB shell, and a 170mm rear hub. I can only guess at fork clearance. But I've see the same fork used on other fatbikes. So it should work.

The cargo bike is more frustrating. As its not one of my frivolus projects. But a geniune answer to a need in the family. Its was heavily delayed, and is now 'out-of-action'. Due to my ego, wanting to make it 'just so'.

I've spent a ton of time and money on flashy solutions. Yet I took my 3 year old to nursery on a broken ladybike this morning. Riding next to folkdoing far better on cheapo mountain bikes.

I took my 3 year old to nursery on a broken ladybike this morning.

Isn't that a Country & Western song?

Actually, no. I think Blues suits it better!

@BareNecesseties Think long and hard about ordering from Triton. Mine has just shipped after paying (in full) on Jan 12th this year, so that's a 9 month lead time. And my frame is an all mountain geometry, not some crazy fatty like SF is building, his has taken even longer.

Saying that, they are awesome frames (this will be my 2nd), and are worth the wait, but you have to be patient!

Just saw this. Thanks gabes, I saw that polo bike when I was looking over on mtbr. Very nice! I like the fact that they are willing to communicate directly a forum ( rather like some of the UK based frame designers Singular/Cotic/On One do ). It inspires some confidence.

I wouldn't mind the wait too much, but as smallfurry said, it gives you the chance to change your mind many times over.

I've mainly been moving my headtube up and down relative to the TT and DT. Everything else I feel is spot on.

Still not 100% on 1.5" headtube either. Leaves a world of possiblilitys open. But why carry the extra weight, when the lefty, and the Enabler both have 1 1/8".

God, did I change my mind on this frame. It's gone from 100mm short travel fork XC frame, to 160mm fork, slack head angle all mountain frame.

Crikey, 160mm! Did you base the geometry on any well known long travel hardtail?

God, did I change my mind on this frame. It's gone from 100mm short travel fork XC frame, to 160mm fork, slack head angle all mountain frame.

Big travel, slack hardtail sounds like loads more fun.

Stable doesnt mean slow. That seems to be a forum myth.

yeah, stable is key when you're riding steep rough trails. And Devon has lots of steep, rough stuff.

I based the Geo on Transition's TransAM hardtail.

Here's some shots from Dmitry, note, it's been polished where the logos are, and decals applied, next it will be bead blasted, so only the logos remain polished, it's a smart look.

You cant fault the workmanship. I've asked for the same style gussets. But only under the HT - DT join, and over the TT - ST join.

I do worry slightly that 70deg HTA, is maybe 0.5deg more than I should have, now that I've added suspension. But I may just run the lefty a cm longer, which will have the same effect. My BB drop is 60mm, so being moved up to 55mm, due to the longer fork, isnt so bad.

Been looking over the geo this morning. If I want to be as happy riding snow roads with an Enabler fork, as I am riding technical off-road stuff with front sus. I cant see how I could improve it.

I grew up in Devon BTW. Some awesome riding to be had. I learnt to ride, cycling down steep valleys on a BMX, on the Plymouth border of Dartmoor. Seems like a frigging stupid thing to do looking back at it ;)

(NB: the chainstay length in the pic is with the rocker drop-outs in the central position)

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^^ Looking great gabes. The fact that you've gone back for a second makes me think that when I decide to go custom, Triton might just be the one.

Good choice basing it on the Transition too!

^ I used to love riding in Devon while I was at Uni, living in Exeter. Not a lot of off roading. I went to Dartmoor a couple of times & would ride around Haldon forest fairly regularly. My first taste of hills after moving out of London.

I've just moved back to Devon, the riding is pretty rough, and after some epic flooding this summer, there's not much mud anymore, which is good, but the stone is all flint! I'm learning my way around all the green lanes, bridleways, footpaths etc. It's great, but I also can't wait to get back to some built trails in Wales.

I've just moved back to Devon, the riding is pretty rough, and after some epic flooding this summer, there's not much mud anymore, which is good, but the stone is all flint! I'm learning my way around all the green lanes, bridleways, footpaths etc. It's great, but I also can't wait to get back to some built trails in Wales.

Dont miss the flint and slate.

Vicious stuff flint!

I tend to just want variety of terrain. I'm sure that if I lived on a welsh mountainside, I'd find myself occasionally longing for some twisty southern woodland singletrack.

^^ Have fun. I look forward to seeing that frame built up. You already got some forks for it?

Yeah, I have everything ready waiting to go on it. Fox Float 32, and they are actually 150 travel, I was wrong.

Yeah, variety is what I want too. Dartmoor isn't far from me, I'm also only 35 miles from the quantocks, which I plan to check out soon. Unfortunately, I have a job.

You already got some forks for it?

If you can make these work, being that they are 180. The Ti coil is going to work wonders on small bumps (flint etc).

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=54732

Ti grey colour too ;)

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Images/Models/Original/54732.jpg

This^ made check my parcel number again. After umpteen E-mails etc.

MY FORK HAS CLEARED CUSTOMS!

I'm probably a little too excited about this. But its a sweet looking fork set-up.

Strut. Not fork.

Half a fork.

Leg.

Unfortunately, I have a job.

That must suck ;-)

I knew some guys who used to rave on about the Quantocks. It's meant to have an incredibly high amount of trails for a relatively small area.

I should imagine you'll be exploring them for quite a while.

MY FORK HAS CLEARED CUSTOMS!

Pictures upon arrival please.

The first thing will be to chuck my front wheel on it, and see if the tyre clears. The clamps will allow for my rim width - tyre width combo. But the wheel needs to be dished for this to work. Going other it the over day the difference in spoke tension is about as much as I'm willing to use. So if its not enough. I'll probably look to order a standard 135mm front hub and an Enabler fork.

Then in the summer I'll rebuild the Project 321 hub into a Surly rim, which has offset drillings.

How wide a tyre do you suppose would fit in these?

http://singletrackworld.com/2012/09/eurobike-2012-x-fusion-forks-and-dropper/

:-)