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• #24802
^^yes, I just meant it's a pretty personal thing and the more people chime in the less likely it is to be helpful because we're all going to say different things based on our personal whatever
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• #24803
lol thats my bike
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• #24804
Team bumble bee is being infiltrated...
Sorry to bring the lovely clearances back on the debate...Is it me or are the HT and ST angles a bit closer than their usual looseness?
They haven't put up the geometry for this frame on their site yet, so not sure.
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• #24805
The geo for all the frames is the same.
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• #24806
Well so far
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• #24807
But that is a low bro, so obviously their standard geometry won't fit.
Just wondering that if this is their first bro pro, they might have taken this opportunity to adjust the geometry to something more fitting to the frame type?
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• #24808
If they would change the geometry now they would admit that they have fucked up the geometry with the old ones haha
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• #24809
The geo for all the frames is the same.
That is kind of a strange thing... all the frames are the same?!
To me this smells like a brand that does not know what geometry is!So stupid.
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• #24810
But that is a low bro, so obviously their standard geometry won't fit.
Just wondering that if this is their first bro pro, they might have taken this opportunity to adjust the geometry to something more fitting to the frame type?
You can only hope.
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• #24811
Their geared cross-bike even has the same geo as their tarck bikes
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• #24812
Looks exactly the same to me...
Crappy.
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• #24813
That is kind of a strange thing... all the frames are the same?!
To me this smells like a brand that does not know what geometry is!So stupid.
there you go
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• #24814
there you go
Yup. All slack.
"This ensures extra comfort and makes it impossible for the user to reach the front wheel with the foot and also that we can take the curves more aggressively without worrying about curbs, potholes or that our pedal will collide with the ground."
It all makes sense now... they are just scared.
Awww
Pedals only hit the ground if you ride a conversion (and a bad one at that) in my experience. Maybe they were running 175mm crank arms? Who knows...
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• #24815
It's frustrating, I guess they must be pretty good for crits but I like my track bikes tight, even a little annoyed that the seta isn't as tight as my old Dave.
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• #24816
It's frustrating, I guess they must be pretty good for crits but I like my track bikes tight, even a little annoyed that the seta isn't as tight as my old Dave.
Maybe in a few years time they might get it right. Until then there are plenty of better options out there to choose from!
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• #24817
I definitely need a black finishing kit now.
The Waterford is mine and had bounced around a few thread these past days. Glad you asked about the black parts.
Sugino cranks, nitro bits, all were GOLD when I bought them. Ugly. But on sale. And for a cool 20 I was able to get them anodised black. Look around I'm sure you can do the same. Considered doing it to a whole kit once.
Wheels are destickered Mavics. Fork is a rattle canned pink Stratos. I was taking a hard turn that I wasn't anticipating and ended up off a 2 ft ledge in a full banked turn at about 25 miles an hour. Had I been on a freewheel or not hauling ass while turning I'd have been fine. Front
end came down hard and fork didn't stand a chance. Stratos was imported from Japan. Perfect fit.Years ago finished product:
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• #24818
what are you people saying?
I thought the dos' are slack up until 60cm, then they become nearer 73 deg -
• #24819
Looks exactly the same to me...
Crappy.
andy you need to match the wheelbase points to see the difference
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• #24820
lol
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• #24821
what are you people saying?
I thought the dos' are slack up until 60cm, then they become nearer 73 degThey're supposedly 74deg in the bigger sizes...
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• #24822
andy you need to match the wheelbase points to see the difference
I did that after... no difference except the down tube angle, which looks like it gives even more clearance!
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• #24823
No mate it's really a bike, look at the wheels and no fur and rad as fuck.
Whatever your comedy styling think it is, it's not a HHSB
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• #24824
It is HHSB.
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• #24825
Damn, colourwise that Yellow Dosnoventa is really cool, shame about the geo!
Just buy some of the Chrome clipless shoes