Considerate driver of the day

it's not logic when human are not logical in itself, cyclists who drive does not make them automatically good.

The point was that he didn't say that cyclists are all good drivers.
He said that all good drivers are cyclists.
Those statements are not the same.

the point was that he didn't say that cyclists are all good drivers
he said that all good drivers were cyclists
those statements are not the same

But they are all friends of Corny...

On what ground do you think this?

I come from Belgium, and though I never cycled out of London, I feel a bit safer than I would feel in the streets of Brussels*** or even a small city like Liege***. Of course Flemish cities are more bike-friendly but even though I think I would shit myself more than once a day riding in Brussels. I haven't been there for a while though(one and half year), maybe the cycling mania has developed there as well? Maybe people started thinking that cycling is not just a Sunday morning sport but also a way to get around in town? that would be about time though, for a 'cycling nation'.

Isn't it more like a 'the grass is greener on the other side' thingy?

I do think also that the more the drivers will ride bikes, even only when they are youngster before having a licence, they will be more considerate to cyclists. And stop thinking of us as Untermenschen because we don't have a box of steel around us.

I do also think that the usual British politeness and calm can help something even in Big Luhnduhn, just take a look at the drivers in Paris, they are really nuts !

um did you see what happened in Liege just yesterday !!

my european tours en velo have brought me into contact ( not literally ) with the politest drivers
french drivers won't race out of a side turning to save themselves a few seconds they are more than happy to wait and let you past first before pulling out
the " allez allez " you get from the french as one swooshes by
polite

it's not logic when human are not logical in itself, cyclists who drive does not make them automatically good.

Sorry, Ed, but this is statistics you're talking about. Logic is , well... logic. You can't change a basic conjunction only because you know better.

There's one for you - some good cyclists are bad drivers. Some bad drivers steal from workplace. Explain.

Those thieving cyclists! I knew it!

Please don't disparage my philosophy degree, it's already upsetting enough that employers consider it worthless!

They ain't looking for qualifications, they lookin for muscle.

The potholes in Brussels are the killers. I was cruising along at the international standard Scobles Pace (15km per hour or thereabouts) then I lost my 700c front wheel into the abyss.

I tasted the Belgium cobbles.

I wish everyone on here would detail their every daily commute, it's incredibly interesting.

You mostly work from home, right? How's your commute from bedroom to study?

I like to touch my bike on my commute too. Can't resist when I'm in the corridor.

But they are all friends of Corny...

I didn't realise that Corny is AKA Dorothy.

So a thread appears about considerate wvm when I'm out of the country on holiday. Coincidence???

The two fuckwits who drove into each other this morning at the roundabout, leaving the way clear for me to sail on through.

Give way to the right, wankers.

^^WVM. You weren't supposed to see this! (we're preparing a lifetime achievement award).

Rode to work today. Noone ran me over.

^^WVM. You weren't supposed to see this! (we're preparing a lifetime achievement award).

puts thread on ignore

(just in case)

Glad this thread developed nicely while I was busy working.

Great stuff guys!

Yesterday on my ride back into town after the Christmas Cracker ride a courier in a yellow and green van waved at me, and wound down his window. "Did I see you out in Sevenoaks earlier today?" which I confirmed, "In which case good on you!"

The two fuckwits who drove into each other this morning at the roundabout, leaving the way clear for me to sail on through.

Give way to the right, wankers.

You'd be surprised how many people out there thinks that the one on the right has to stop.

I was shouted at by some bloke heading to church in West Ham. There's a long road leading to Canning Town with many roundabouts and I had that fucking suited twat in alligator shoes jumping at me in his Vauxhall Omega.
I was so shocked I stopped. He also stopped and even came out of the car to wave his fist. Now, roundabouts in Ghana - the same, different? Discuss.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=van+drivers&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=e3j2Tsj6JoS48gO2w4TTAQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CGIQ_AUoAQ&biw=1903&bih=863

I don't smoke and my steering wheel's on the other side but close enough!

Cumbria you're all wonderful drivers.

except those who take the dual carriageway can fuck off.

Just went for a nice ride round some country roads in Chesire, there's obviously a lot more room and less rush and less other cars, but apart from the Cunt family outing in the Mitsubishi Shogun, everyone was very considerate.

Yesterday on my ride back into town after the Christmas Cracker ride a courier in a yellow and green van waved at me, and wound down his window. "Did I see you out in Sevenoaks earlier today?" which I confirmed, "In which case good on you!"

Nice one dj.