LOOK - Look at them!

Buckaroo, keep a lookout for a Wilier Triestina in Columbus Nemo from the same era, it's apparently the same frame (just way less cool, it not being a Look) according to the bloke I bought the 253 off.

my look kg241

My seatpost has finally been despatched! Won't be long until I post a pic of the completed bike, can't wait!

Whats the rules is it driveside, cranks aligned with downtube, lined up valves pointing up, big ring and middle cassette?

tyre logos alligned with valves, cranks level with chain stays, drive side forward. Big front ring, smallest rear.

Nein! Cranks in line with downtube.

Also, computers must be mounted if they will be used on the bike.

sram red cranks, no? driveside decals suggest cranks aligned with seat-tube.

chain stay!

lmao. I always thought it was downtube, but Tom does have a point about the sram red cranks, logo is designed to be level when the crank is with the seat tube.

What about valves, do they need to be pointing up or down?

or masked by fork/seatstays/chainstay/argh!

which way up are the logos on your tubs? are they on the driveside or non? we need to know!

Ah oops, they are corsa cx's, pretty sure the logo's are opposite the valve holes.

OH GOOD GOD MAN.
Sand the logos off, and carefully redraw them in the appropriate place.

Missed the part about which side they are on, driveside, opposite the valve holes

Tubs are a special case

why not 404 FC's.

Spoke Pattern Non-Drive Cross
Spoke Pattern Drive Radial

Same on all Zipp wheels .. they must know what they're doing but doesn't sound wonderful to me?!

What about a HED Stinger .. ? The fact is that since Zipp acquired HED's patent (sometime in the late 90s) their wheels have slowly changed shape to more closely mirror the wheels HED started selling 18 years ago.

Great bikes. I hope tomorrow I'll have my kg281..

Here is the Look KX I just finished setting up with 2005 Record and Aksium wheels

Nice, needs some bostin crabon whels though

Very much ^this

@carson - very nice, hope it's treating you well

I do like the KX, the proportions seem kind of odd though, maybe its the tubing, what size is it?

Spoke Pattern Non-Drive Cross
Spoke Pattern Drive Radial

Same on all Zipp wheels .. they must know what they're doing but doesn't sound wonderful to me?!

Mavic have done it too. The small advantage is that the spoke bracing angle is slightly improved on the drive side, where it is most needed on highly dished 8/9/10-speed wheels. The small disadvantage in the olden days was that all the drive torque has to go through the barrel of the hubshell before being sent to the rim. This was a problem in the olden days*, because hub barrels were made as small as possible to just wrap around a 10mm axle. Now the axle is bigger,so the hub barrel has no choice but to be bigger and they make them a bit bigger still to increase torsional stiffness. Since torsional stiffness of the hub barrel rises as the fourth power of diameter, you can see that it didn't take much of an increase in diameter to make the old problem of hub wind up all but disappear.

*in the even older days, hub barrels were a separate component from the flanges and torque transfer across the hub relied on friction in the press fit

Nice, needs some bostin crabon whels though

one day...

I do like the KX, the proportions seem kind of odd though, maybe its the tubing, what size is it?

it's a 55 cm

If you want a 51cm 585, go here

If you already have a 585, go to thread anyway and try to stop Lucozade from making a terrible mistake.