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• #77
Here's the map: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/corporate/london-2012-olympic-route-network.pdf
Not actually that many roads in the East, but as anyone who has driven around this way knows it only takes a small delay somewhere to gridlock huge parts of the road network.
Yep, if ANYTHING goes wrong in the Blackwall Tunnel the traffic soon backs up for three or four miles.
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• #78
^^ so if it's two lanes going in each direction, the OGL will be the outside lane, and everyone else (incl. bikes) will be on the nearside lane?
Are there any routes included where there is one car lane and one bus lane? That would mean suspending the bus lane.
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• #79
I've just been sent this by the Games Local Engagement Team:
"Cyclists (and all other general traffic) will be able to use the ORN; however they will be prohibited from travelling in most Games Lanes, which will be on approximately a third of the ORN. However, nearly all (95 per cent) of the Games Lanes are offside (i.e. away from the kerb), which is not the preferred position for cyclists, and arrangements will be made to allow cyclists to travel in most of the nearside Games Lanes. Where lanes are located on the nearside, provision has been made in most Traffic Regulation Orders (TROs) to enable cyclists to use these lanes.
The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) enforces against anti-social and illegal road-user behaviour by cyclists, including cycling on pavements, cycling without lights during the hours of darkness, and crossing stop lines whilst traffic signals are on red. Cyclists who are found committing such offences are currently issued with a £30 Fixed Penalty Notice. This will continue at Games time with anybody flouting these temporary restrictions being at risk of a Fixed Penalty Notice."
So watch out for those £30 fines!
Cyclist in outside lane which happens to be a olympic lane, wishing to turn right.......
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• #80
Most or all of the ORN are roads you would not want to ride on and are easily avoided. However, if you want to be a martyr then please be one.
The Olympics should be a great opportunity to show that cycling can be the quickest and easiest way of moving around central london..
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• #81
The Olympics are a great opportunity to holiday abroad.
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• #82
Most or all of the ORN are roads you would not want to ride on and are easily avoided. However, if you want to be a martyr then please be one.
The Olympics should be a great opportunity to show that cycling can be the quickest and easiest way of moving around central london..
And if these roads are the only option to turn right, think about it.
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• #83
Absolutely, I'll be in Vietnam for the duration!!
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• #85
Noticed the lane coming up kingsway this morning, most of the way up it is in the middle between the bus lane and the outside lane (which has a few right turns) but when it gets to the junction at Holborn tube the Olympic lane switches to the outside lane and the 'normal lane' to the inside, looks like that junction is going to be a nightmare!
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• #86
tfl have all the official routes on their website, search for tfl orn.
my own commute goes down marylebone/euston road, currently 3 lanes, the inside being a bus/taxi lane. for the games the outside lane is a games lane and the inside bus/taxi lane will be all purpose.i can see the insiide two lanes becoming jammed with traffic and the outside lane being largely empty. so my plan is to ride the outside of lane two with an eye to slipping into lane three for 'safety' reasons... obvously if traffic is not slowed in the left two lanes then this plan could be dangerous!
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• #87
Also Barclays hire bikes are not allowed within 2 mile radius of Olympic site as it's sponsored by Lloyds? Does anyone know about this?
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• #88
I think it's just half a mile, but still.
Not sure what to believe - is it because of conflict with Lloyds or so the hire scheme can be extended to Canary Wharf which is where Barclays has its headquarters?
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• #89
^ It's to do with advertising rights, they're covering up everything that is "non-olympic brand" at the footy grounds for the same reason, including soap and loo roll dispensers, and changing sponsored stadium names
e.g Ricoh Arena is being renamed Coventry Stadium for the duration of the games, as Ricoh haven't paid Locog millions of pounds, neither have Barclays.
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• #90
London News at 1:30 today has a segment about the lanes and cyclists.
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• #91
Also Barclays hire bikes are not allowed within 2 mile radius of Olympic site as it's sponsored by Lloyds? Does anyone know about this?
I think it's just half a mile, but still.
Not sure what to believe - is it because of conflict with Lloyds or so the hire scheme can be extended to Canary Wharf which is where Barclays has its headquarters?
Or the fact that Newham refuse to have them in their borough.
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• #92
London News at 1:30 today has a segment about the lanes and cyclists.
so .................... ??
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• #93
Yeah.. and..
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• #94
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18885587
Basically a sum up of this, and that 'cyclists are enraged'.
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• #95
Olympic lanes come into operation on Friday 27th
Next critical mass is Friday 27thJust saying...
TfL said cyclists could not use 95% of the lanes because they were outside lanes which cyclists would not use anyway other than to turn right. However, right turns have been banned on the Games Lanes.
It said of the remaining 5% which were nearby lanes, cyclists could not use two thirds of them because the high speed limits made them too dangerous.
TfL can get fucked. If I want to ride on the right (especially overtaking stationary traffic) or in a 70 limit that's my business. If it's not a motorway you can't tell me not to ride it.
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• #96
I will be using the lanes, especially the ones coming down Park Lane, at my own convenience
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• #97
If I want to ride on the right (especially overtaking stationary traffic) or in a 70 limit that's my business. If it's not a motorway you can't tell me not to ride it.
I was on the A40 a couple of weeks ago, from Hanger Lane toward Greenford. I got pulled by a Traffic Cop who, and I quote verbatim, said to "Stop being a bloody twat." Interesting conversation that was.
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• #98
I ride there. It's not nice but it's not crazy.
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• #99
Precisely. He said I was causing a nuisance and worrying drivers. In twenty minutes I only got smiles and thumbs up till him... Disconnected much.
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• #100
A spokesman for one black-cab group has just said on the radio there will be another demonstration, similar to the one held on 17 July 2012 in Westminster.
This next one is planned for 4pm on Monday 22 July 2012 on Tower Bridge.
Don't know whether to avoid or join in.
I've just been sent this by the Games Local Engagement Team:
"Cyclists (and all other general traffic) will be able to use the ORN; however they will be prohibited from travelling in most Games Lanes, which will be on approximately a third of the ORN. However, nearly all (95 per cent) of the Games Lanes are offside (i.e. away from the kerb), which is not the preferred position for cyclists, and arrangements will be made to allow cyclists to travel in most of the nearside Games Lanes. Where lanes are located on the nearside, provision has been made in most Traffic Regulation Orders (TROs) to enable cyclists to use these lanes.
The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) enforces against anti-social and illegal road-user behaviour by cyclists, including cycling on pavements, cycling without lights during the hours of darkness, and crossing stop lines whilst traffic signals are on red. Cyclists who are found committing such offences are currently issued with a £30 Fixed Penalty Notice. This will continue at Games time with anybody flouting these temporary restrictions being at risk of a Fixed Penalty Notice."
So watch out for those £30 fines!