Olympic Games Lanes

Join in. They supported us over the Addison Lee thing as it was in the interests of both groups. Same with this one, I reckon

Not that it matters but did they support us or was it more a case of we were fighting the same battle for different reasons?

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It's pleasing to see Simon Hughes has signed this Early day motion. 5 isn't many though.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/commons/early-day-motions/edm-detail1/?session=2012-13&edmnumber=421

Not that it matters but did they support us or was it more a case of we were fighting the same battle for different reasons?

Well, yeah - that's what I meant by "in the interests of both groups", as is this.

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The enemy of my enemy is occasionally a useful ally when I have something in particular that I wish to complain about!

Not that it matters but did they support us or was it more a case of we were fighting the same battle for different reasons?

My enemies enemy is my friend and all that...

Join in. They supported us over the Addison Lee thing as it was in the interests of both groups. Same with this one, I reckon

they do hate us when we do critical mass though
it's ok when they have a bee in their bonnet about something but when cyclists have a go they don't support it

So very true Mike and bothwell, I just think the word support is too strong, but perhaps this is just me.

I wouldn't want people to assume for one minute that we've formed an allegiance with what is typically (and of course there are exceptions) an unpleasant/dangerous presence on the road. As a rule, taxis don't actually give a toss about our issues.

And public transport? That makes me laugh.

Why should they though? I don't give a fuck about taxi issues but anything to disrupt the masses is a good thing

they do hate us when we do critical mass though
it's ok when they have a bee in their bonnet about something but when cyclists have a go they don't support it

I, hand on heart, as a cyclist, can honestly say I don't give a flying fuck about the issues that face taxi drivers day to day. If they want to take action on anything under the sun I'm unlikely to fash myself supporting them.

Unless, of course, what they're upset about also upsets me. Then I am all for it. Quid pro quo, Clarice, quid pro quo.

Why should they though? I don't give a fuck about taxi issues but anything to disrupt the masses is a good thing

Because they put the fear of God in to many cyclists I know, not to mention those who want to cycle but are too afraid to. Buses the same.

Critical Mass doesn't represent cyclists, or cycling 'issues'. I don't think it even claims to.

^ True.

Heads up for anyone who might missed it, but it is claimed that anyone caught cycling in a games lane will face £130 payable on the spot fine or impounding of the vehicle...

Heads up for anyone who might missed it, but it is claimed that anyone caught cycling in a games lane will face £130 payable on the spot fine or impounding of the vehicle...
I struggle to find anything that supports this claim.

Tempted to just ride in the lanes and fart. Take THAT VIPs!

I struggle to find anything that supports this claim.

not exactly first hand, but:

http://www.eta.co.uk/2012/07/09/olympic-road-ban-cyclists-will-put-lives-risk

Heads up for anyone who might missed it, but it is claimed that anyone caught cycling in a games lane will face £130 payable on the spot fine or impounding of the vehicle...

I struggle to imagine how they will possibly enforce this

not exactly first hand, but:

http://www.eta.co.uk/2012/07/09/olympic-road-ban-cyclists-will-put-lives-risk

Cyclists who stray into the Games Lanes will face a fixed penalty of £130 and their bike will be impounded if they are unable to pay.

The ETA has, I think, got it completely wrong.

Nobody has any authority to impound any bicycle (short of a court order, or maybe authority implied by contract).

There is no such thing as a £130 fixed penalty, either prior to, or post- the various pieces of Games legislation.

I struggle to imagine how they will possibly enforce this
"They" being the operative word.

TfL cannot enforce, as they do not have the authority to issue PCNs to cyclists (or owners / keepers of pedal cycles), as they can only do so via approved devices, i.e. cameras, which cannot, as yet, identify cyclists.

And even if they could identify the cyclist via camera, they only have the authority to issue PCNs to keepers of vehicles.

The police will not (and, as far as I recall, cannot) enforce as the roads are, by and large, the domain of TfL, and governed by the Traffic Management Act, not the Road Traffic Act.

But the polis might still give a cyclist a £30 NEFPN, though I don't know for which offence.

You remind me of someone.

Sad story, really.

He's in a better place now though.

Unless they manage to physically stop you there and then, I struggle to see how they can fine you !