BB Gun vs Cyclists - Hampshire

^ That would certainly dent their hair-gel.

This highlights two clear problems which can easily extend to other more serious car related incidents and crimes.
1) The registered owner of a vehicle must be held fully responsible for any actions commited by any driver or passenger of that vehicle unless another party is named and takes responsibility. This needs to be for the full period of time for which the vehicle is registered to them. "It's not my car anymore" should be as credible as SMIDSY.
2) The chain of culpability should then flow through driver to passenger and all drivers should automatically be considered to be aiding and abetting any crime committed from a vehicle that they're driving unless they report it within 24 hours. There's enough ANPR cameras in the country, you just rack up the penalty for every camera you trip until you either report the crime or get pulled by the police.
On top of that, penalties need to be a lot stiffer. After all, people whinge about things like paying £60 & 3 points for a speeding ticket. It doesn't seem to stop people speeding though. Income related penalties would be the way forward and more points.
In the meantime, if anyone happens to be off to this part of Hampshire in the near future, take the make, model, colour and reg details and if you see it, give the local police a bell and let them know where they can find it.

What would stop people speeding is ticketing ALL speeders in one go but they don't because they're sly: Only a percentage of speeders get done, therefore leaving many thinking/feeling they can get away with it, who will continue speeding. That is what keeps the money coming in for the collectors.

All valid points but seeing as this is a hypothetical situation how about mounting these to your handlebars:

Really teach the little pricks a lesson AND have the potential to level their houses

Or this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSp7CipN1pw

What would stop people RLJing is ticketing ALL RLJers in one go but they don't because they're sly: Only a percentage of RLJers get done, therefore leaving many thinking/feeling they can get away with it, who will continue jumping reds. That is what keeps the money coming in for the collectors.

You can play this game with any RLJ thread on a bike forum, and any speeding thread on a car forum- the arguments are identical from each group.

All valid points but seeing as this is a hypothetical situation how about mounting these to your handlebars:

Really teach the little pricks a lesson AND have the potential to level their houses

Hmmmm, tempting. It might make the steering a bit heavy though, and it would definitly clip the odd wing mirror.

A search for that registration number and make of car on the DVLA Vehicle Check page shows that the reg number indeed belongs to a silver Ford.

That's quite a coincidence but surely the Police have checked it out? Maybe the people in this car noted down the reg when they saw a car that was the same make/model as theirs, and had fake plates made up, and the genuine owner has a cast iron alibi for where their car was on the day. Or maybe the genuine car is simply same make, same colour, different model to this one.

An interesting aside is that the genuine owner is behind with their car tax, which was due on 1st May. The genuine car could be SORNed because it's not driveable, which would be another cast iron alibi for them.

Number plates get stolen all the time mostly from cars that are the same as the model that's about to do something illegal.. I always thought this would be speeding/stealing petrol robberies etc but this is a new one

I know this as my plates have been stolen four fucking times now.

If I remember correctly they tried to find samples on the airbag, but as you said, presumably that's what his mates ran out to go and clean up. With friends like that eh...

whats the first thing you feel when you shoot an innocent civilian ?
.....the recoil of your rifle.

whats the first thing you feel when you shoot an innocent civilian ?
.....the recoil of your rifle.

Is there such a thing, in this day and age, as an "innocent civilian"?

A child under 6 months old?

I hear that they kick women and frankly being that ugly should be a crime.

A child under 6 months old?

they will have twoc by then

I had a cnut take a pop at me with a catapult and steel ball bearings earlier this year.
Local Police took it seriously, but the car was unregistered. They put a bit in the local paper asking for witnesses, but no luck.

http://www.kent.police.uk/Your%20Area/east_kent/news/Catapult_fired_at_cy.html

I am tempted to carry my Tikka T3, that'll see to anyone.

Nice, whats your T3 chambered in?

223 Rem

I was looking at the T3's in either .222 or a 22-250. everyones telling me to get a .243 but I think I might have trouble trying to justify a use for it!

It's "ideal for home defence?"

used that one up with the shotgun

I was looking at the T3's in either .222 or a 22-250. everyones telling me to get a .243 but I think I might have trouble trying to justify a use for it!

Depends on what you want to do with it. .222, 22-250 and 243 are all OK, but the first two mean very expensive ammo, the latter is a bit heavy unless you are going after deer. For general target and vermin I find 223 using FE 65gr works really well, and the ammo is cheap as chips.

jeebus how did this thread get to this^?

a typical arms race!

If I can find the time, I'll write it all down....

Your solicitor might have something to say about that.

^^^ was just thinking the same thing Skullster, it's all gone a bit 'todgers at dawn' ironically after the OP posting about being shot at...

If FreeBornAde is still reading this it would be fascinating to here how your fight against corruption and injustice went. What happened and where are you with it all now??

it's only todgers at dawn because unless you shoot at targets or for vermin/food you have no idea what they are on about and as far as you are concerned guns means violence and death to people on the streets of hackney or in hollywood films.

anyway 22PPC or (6mm) for target 17rem, 22-250 for sporting or 25-06 for deer (if you shoot in scotland then something a bit bigger)
who cares about the cost of ammo? load your own and have a far more accurate rifle.

+1 to how did it get to this. Didn't mean to start the Gun Appreciation thread, not my scene at all.

GunRadar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am tempted to carry my Tikka T3, that'll see to anyone.

be careful what you say on a public forum, come FAC renewal, variation or applying for an open ticket the local firearms officer isn't going to take your comment lightly.