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• #25377
IME it makes no difference, but if it makes you feel safer ... go for it.
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• #25378
I kind of need a new jacket anyway, just whether it’s worth being easier to be seen etc. My lights are damn good and I ride appropriately 99% of the time!
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• #25379
Tis the season for the bike Ninja's
Crossing the road at a zebra crossing this morning, car stops I go to cross bike ninja no lights, head to toe in black bombs through the middle.
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• #25380
Well, that was as cold as at 6.30 here in frosty Oxfordshire.
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• #25381
High-5'd the eco protestors at E&C, not sure the fuming drivers behind approved though. Suck it up guys.
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• #25382
Yep, it was rather cold this morning.
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• #25383
right of way
Right of way just means that they are allowed where they are. Just as the bicycles are, and the cars are.
Maybe you're thinking of priority?
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• #25384
This was just left all day yesterday on Old Kent Road opposite McDonalds
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• #25385
Quite probably, yes. I'm no lawyer.
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• #25386
Me neither!
In terms of priority, though, I don't think there's any absolute if peds having priority (other than on pedestrian crossings, where they are "accorded precedence" and when they are crossing at a junction that a driver is turning into)When there are accidents / collisions, it would appear that consideration is given to all factors (and sometimes ignored) in determining liability.
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• #25387
Owner had a huge, absolutely massive, Mac attack.
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• #25388
IME it makes no difference
This is about right. A decent set of lights makes anyone more than visible enough for night riding under city lights. The biggest reason for drivers not seeing is not looking.
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• #25389
No city lights here! It’s tractor lights at best!
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• #25390
Side-on those ProViz jackets stand out a hell of a lot more than normal cycling stuff (i.e. normal cycling jackets with reflective piping). Haven't tried one to see if they're boil-in-the-bag or not though.
The worry will be that soon loads of people have them, and then that's all drivers will be looking for. It's a different take on the lumen escalation war.
The biggest reason for drivers not seeing is not looking.
Personally I'd say the biggest reason for drivers not seeing is not looking properly. A big reflective jacket like that is going to increase the chance that you'll be seen by someone who's not looking properly (i.e. just giving a quick glance). But, yes, for the people that pull out (or across you, or into you) without looking *at all* there's no magic jacket that's going to help.
(For side-on visibility I currently have spoke reflectors on both wheels and I've had loads of comments from people about just how bright they are in headlights.)
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• #25391
there's no magic jacket that's going to help.
BUT THERE'S A MAGIC FIST
(in before hippy)
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• #25392
All hail the FIST.
Speaking of which,
fistfirst commute on new commuting bike today. Much smooth, so glide, etc. Not having to worry about gears jumping under load, mudguards that don't rub, semi-powerful braking! It'll never catch on. -
• #25393
Was caught waving a Brompton seatpost at a taxi a few weeks back... shortly to be applauded 😂
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• #25394
If you already have a decent cycling jacket then you could just get one of these to wear on top...
https://www.rutlandcycling.com/clothing/upper-body/altura-night-vision-safety-vest-yellow_280026?
I just wear a £3 “builders” hi-vis.
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• #25395
I ride appropriately 99% of the time!
I would say that this is your issue, and advise you to ride as unsafely as possible, forcing motorists to give you loads of time & space.
However, if it's country A/roads you're talking about, there's nothing you can do. It's their unmovable opinion that those roads are their dominion and they can use them as they wish.I learnt this the hard way on the A37.
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• #25396
Dont worry, I take the lane, have to with all the Tory wankers in 4x4s thinking they are posh farmers.
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• #25397
Stopped to help a guy who’d stacked on the junction just up from work. Slid / skidded on super greasy corner and wrecked his jacket, but seemed ok otherwise, plus the lovely steel Colnago looked unscathed. Spent the rest of the commute humming the ‘don’t lean’ song into all the corners (to the tune of Ms Parton’s ‘Jolene’.)
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• #25398
Got to remember that tune! Felt my rear wheel break out just the tiniest bit on a corner on a steep downhill - I thought I was already going much slower than normal, but apparently not enough... at least I didn't actually go for a full slide.
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• #25399
The A37 is pretty nuts - hope it wasn't too bad. It's more frightening cycling on the A roads than in London for that reason you described. I get close passes from fuckers refusing to budge over the white line only to then see them move to the centre of the road to avoid a speed bump. It's baffling.
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• #25400
I used to ride Bristol - Shepton Mallet frequently, mostly weekends though. However, I had many dicey encounters with careless and aggressive motorists. Some of the worst road users I've ever encountered on that route. There is a very pleasant country lane route out via Chew Valley Lake though. Speed bump fuckery really irks me, baffling is exactly the word.
Okay so now it’s darker, and cars seem to playing even less attention to me I’ve decided that maybe just really good lights and multiple of them isn’t good enough and I should invest in a reflective jacket of some sort?
I do have reflective mudguards but only used when wet etc. And on the Brompton there isn’t any reflective bits really.
Found an altura night vision Evo three jacket for 40 quid on tredz down from 100, anything better?