Diet

Malt loaf and peanut butter. Frickin brilliant, with a great carb:protein:fat ratio.
As a combo though, it is the hardest substance to remove from the palate....

Most people have a** marmite face**, I have a peanut butter face. YEUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK.

Malt loaf and peanut butter. Frickin brilliant, with a great carb:protein:fat ratio.
As a combo though, it is the hardest substance to remove from the palate....
I can't eat peanut butter so have tahini as a substitute. F--ck me, tahini and maltloaf, I must have spent 16 hours trying to unstick it from my mouthroof.

Veery addictive though - more so than either foodstuff alone. Considering that maltloaf is as addictive to me as crack cocaine is to a crackhead, maltloaf + tahini is like crystal meth.

Tahini is bollox on its own. Just a bitter sesame gloop. Pop a bunch of anti-histamine* and eat some peanut butter, its much nicer.

*not serious of course.

Who the fuck would eat tahini on its own?

I consider tahini sandwich (like PB sandwich) on "its own".

Just not very appealing, but tahini mixed with chick peas to make houmous etc, tasty.

Ah. it's nice diluted w/water & drizzled on falafel.

mmm yesterday I had falafel for lunch, dinner and a snack. What a treat! Need to get a life...

Just spotted this crazy motherfucker in Tesco, way too much sugar for my daily diet but probably ok while on a long ride

I cant eat anything even mildly spiced when i ride. Repeats on me like a beeeeatch

Banana loaf too spicy?

You should try eating a plateful of cooked fenugreek before sports. The pungent odour comes straight through in your sweat, Interesting.

Being veggie and (I guess) lactose intolerant - I can't stand the taste of milk or uncooked cheese, I'm more or less in the same boat as MG.

Me being me I happily eat shite all day every day without any consequences. When I was racing and training hard it was a case of whatever I could get in college - lunchbox of sarnies or chips from the canteen then a proper meal at home. Usually pasta with tomato sauce and a shit load of nuts or pasta, veg and cheese sauce.

I've never had a regular breakfast in over 10yrs but I would make sure that I had food in me before going out on a sunday ride etc. You often begin to feel it an hour in and by then it's too late.

During a ride I'd have the usual banana, chocolate and possibly jaffa cakes if it wasn't too warm (they melt easy) Never liked the energy powder stuff in the drink, way too sticky and never tasted nice. Tried an energy gel a few times on long training rides, huge difference if you've hit 'the wall'. I've used protein shakes but never really noticed the difference.

When you get back from a ride an omlette/fried egg sarnie was a nice real quick way of loading tasty protein.

Unless you're training for racing part time diet doesn't make that much difference imo. I know guy's who's pre race preperation was 6 pints and a strong curry the night before. The guy went off to win races simply because of the amount of riding he did

tried to make a pure nutritional flapjack once with as near to a perfect mix of carb/protein/fat by making it with lentils, pepperami and a flour/oilve oil spread binding mix.

needless to say it did not sit easy on the stomach. other attempts to be clever included my mate putting creatine in his beer to avoid it's dehydrating effects - was like putting bicarb in vinegar, went everywhere!

last summer from may-sept i lost 25KG in weight, 'bout 4 stones, due to having trashed my liver and being told to sort it. cycled about 20 miles a day and only took in 2000 kcals a day. muesli brekkie, soup and bread lunch, cadbury brunch bar snack and a decent evening meal. never felt low on energy and it did work. getting back on this regime as soon as i get my new bike this week, want to lost about 6-7 more KG, will get me down to 95KG which for a semi-muscular man at 6foot5 tall should be ideal.

kicking the booze is also a serious win for energy levels, hydration and general health

Malt loaf and peanut butter. Frickin brilliant, with a great carb:protein:fat ratio.
As a combo though, it is the hardest substance to remove from the palate....

I thought malt loaf, butter and peanut butter was the greatest foodstuff available to man. Then a couple of weeks ago I tried it with Nutella on top of the peanut butter.

I don't think I've eaten anything else in the last 10 days.

kicking the booze is also a serious win for energy levels, hydration and general health

too right

Giving up drink & drugs has ruined my life, I have no excuses now when I'm an asshole, I can't say "ha, I was wasted, sorry".

Me being me I happily eat shite all day every day and deal with the consequences.

fixed

Void has got me addicted to these Tilda quick rices which you can get with mixed veg and peppers and squash in. Yummy and quick when you're in a rush/fancy a snack.

Gels shouldnt be used when you "hit the wall" they should be used to prevent it.Thats why the eat/drink little and often rule works.Any type of carb/energy drink mixed strong and gulped down will make you feel sick.If you hit the wall or get the knock youve not taken fuel in properly and its to late

Any kind of glucose rich energy drink/gel will ellicit a strong insulin spike which will make you feel drained and tired and your body converts it all into stored fat. Will basically make you want to sleep.

Carbs taken for endurance activities should be extremely diluted (and electrolytes for that matter). Sugars mixed with fat will release energy slowly. But some people get tired when eating high fat stuff. Proteins will leave you feeling satiated for the longest but for some people, they also have the tiredness issue as fat and protein both takes more energy to digest. But a supply of protein will prevent catabolism issues assosiated with endurance activity.

Its worth experimenting, but prior to sports some kind of slowly digesting carb will probably be most universally suitable. Also, restaining yourself to only a modest amount in one go (big portions of even complex carbs can spike your insulin) I on the hand, cannot do anything without a hefty fat & protein laden meal before hand.

Any kind of glucose rich energy drink/gel... your body converts it all into stored fat. Will basically make you want to sleep.

Yeah, if you're sat down doing nothing, maybe. Otherwise, bolleques.

Any kind of glucose rich energy drink/gel will ellicit a strong insulin spike which will make you feel drained and tired and your body converts it all into stored fat. Will basically make you want to sleep.

Ive never put on weight when training hard or fallen asleep in a race or on the bike ,quite a bizzare statement :)

C'est ne vrais pas. I could explain the Biology but frankly my dears, I can't be arsed.

Carbs taken for endurance activities should be extremely diluted

Also bolleques. I can't find the studies I was reading the other day but from memory:

A drink containing 6% carbohydrate (glucose only) was found to be optimal for absorption during exercise, while a 9% glucose drink empties from the stomach slower than a 6% solution - both irrespective of electrolyte content. The 3% glucose drink emptied from the stomach at a similar rate to the 6% drink. Will post the link later when I find it on http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

However, mixing glucose and fructose in a 2:1 ratio, you can safely make a 9% carb solutuon in a drink; IIRC this will be absorbed just as fast as a 6% glucose only drink. One study found that "ingestion of a combined GLU+FRU solution increases gastric emptying and "fluid delivery" compared with a glucose only solution" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19000102 - however this study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19127189 finds no benefit of glucose + fructose compared to glucose alone.

I wouldn't call 6% or 9% 'extremely diluted'