Hate sexism, too?

That's your wife. Mine's busy. I do all the houswork in exchange for sexual favours. Problem?

Personally I find them appalling! I assume you're being sarcastic though :-)

We need a new type of typesetting, ironices where the slant is opposite to italices

they are all too busy washing and ironing

Most risqué post in this thread...

Not for long.

i feel sorry for all the standup comedians who are now no longer allowed to make any kind of joke at all, whatsoever at all in case they get sacked
how has frankie boyle stayed on DAVE so long ?

There is a big difference of mocking people in a personal manor such as Frank Boyle vs Kerry Katona or mocking someone when they fore-fill a stereo type e.g taking the piss out of a black friend because all you see them eating is chicken compared to saying an entire section of society can't do something or is worthless e.t.c because of their gender or race.

does sexism occur in 'civil' marriages?

Not for long.

it's only a matter of time...

An established place? To be honest, I myself don't feel a "man" enough to go to a footbal match. Sorry Festus, but football is for wankers, as so many wankers swears their lives by it.

I'm with you there with the wankers bit. Nothing manly about modern football though.

But a room full of male commentators, overlooking a crowd of 75% men (guess), watching 22 men (cry because their shoelace has become painfully untied, or something), pulling the wink-wink sexism joke, is shite.

Not for long.

*Balki pops down into the cellar to untie one of the Mexican sex slaves for meme photo

I can't see this as a sexist act, just ignorance

This is pretty much the main constituent in the recipe for what all sexism / racialism / homophobia. Add a pinch of poor logic and you are there.

Sexist would be to deny her the chance to do the job she loves, which hasn't happened.

Sexist would be judging someone's ability and even right to do a job base on their sex chromosomes.

there isn't a single football fan that hasn't commented on the female lino. most have been jokes about her being a women, these conversations weren't taped and broadcast, and these men aren't sexist.

These football fans do not have the influence, they are not necessarily in a job working in and promoting that industry. If they are people are allowed to have the sexist view but it much not effect your behaviour at work. These two were at work, while at work a level of professionalism needs to be maintained, on air or off air they were still at work at a job that represents and promotes football.

I'm with you there with the wankers bit. Nothing manly about modern football though.

But a room full of male commentators, overlooking a crowd of 75% men (guess), watching 22 men (cry because their shoelace has become painfully untied, or something), pulling the wink-wink sexism joke, is shite.

get your facts right, Theo, Cesc and super Jack were all technically youths when they started for the Arsenal

And yet there are thousands of grown up men getting excited about some underage well build boy who prance around and sweat a lot.
Which "-ism" will that be?

*Balki pops down into the cellar to untie one of the Mexican sex slaves for meme photo

Bolivian, you ignorant racist.

It is kinda funny how few women are commenting on this. It's like - a couple of guys making that old "women and the off-side rule" joke. Again. Maybe they're sexist, maybe they're just old-school. It's just tiresome. Women hear that kind of "banter" all the time.

Football is the only sport i played beyond school and i'll watch it sometimes on TV (terrestrial/freevew) but i've never seen these guys and don't much care that they're gone. To them as individuals it might seem heavy-handed, and perhaps the dept were looking to get rid of them, but probably the only course of action for the industry once exposed. Ignorance becomes sexism when you cling on to it. These are media men, they haven't been living in a cave.

It is kinda funny how few women are commenting on this.

Some of my best friends are women.

^ Liar.

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I can't see this as a sexist act, just ignorance. sexist would be to deny her the chance to do the job she loves, which hasn't happened. it has also given a platform for the likes of Brady to raise the role of women in football.

there isn't a single football fan that hasn't commented on the female lino. most have been jokes about her being a women, these conversations weren't taped and broadcast, and these men aren't sexist.

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Either this post is the most finely crafted piece of ironic satire ever, or you are a complete idiot.

This is pretty much the main constituent in the recipe for what all sexism / racialism / homophobia. Add a pinch of poor logic and you are there.

True, but the seriousness of it depends on the audience and context, this was manifested and made a big news story backed up with a load of other clips. put enough of them together and they look like a pair of Alf garnets

These football fans do not have the influence, they are not necessarily in a job working in and promoting that industry. If they are people are allowed to have the sexist view but it much not effect your behaviour at work. These two were at work, while at work a level of professionalism needs to be maintained, on air or off air they were still at work at a job that represents and promotes football.

then those who broke the story and fuelled the media frenzy are more to blame, more irresponsible than those who believed acting like a lad was required. bad timing

^ Liar.

OK, let me correct it - some of my best friends are women I fancy.

Either this post is the most finely crafted piece of ironic satire ever, or you are a complete idiot.

either this post is written by a nonce, or you are a gayer

either this post is written by a nonce, or you are a gayer

Ah, finely crafted ironic satire then

Casual sexism on television, especially in an arena were women have far from established their place. Is shite.
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YouTube - Richard Keys To Jamie Redknapp - "Would You Smash It?"

Cringeworthy.

This didn't actually go out did it? It's just been put out after the scandal, right?

Without wanting to sound like I'm legitimatising (is that a word?), their conversation, they are footballers. Has anyone actually heard players/people in football talk? Or any sports people for that matter. This is standard everyday vocab. Whether you think it’s ok is one thing, but just like the way people go nuts over things like coke/hooker scandals there's some massive double standards going on here.

…….Keys and Gray were definitely stitched up….

I don’t know enough about the story, but the fact that videos like this are being ‘released’ clearly = stitch-up. If you wanted I’m pretty sure you could get this footage for almost anyone involved in sport...and probably media...and journalism...

There is a big difference of mocking people in a personal manor such as Frank Boyle vs Kerry Katona or mocking someone when they fore-fill a stereo type e.g taking the piss out of a black friend because all you see them eating is chicken compared to saying an entire section of society can't do something or is worthless e.t.c because of their gender or race.

Yeap, there is a difference. But imo, not much.

People like Frank Boyle or Ricky Gervace are getting laughs from offensive material. What was the guy in the clip above doing? Trying to get a bit of a laugh/joke/props/affirmation/whatever by talking about someone smashing someone in.

The Office racist sketch was genius, however, I think that a lot of the time, the truth is comedians (and audiences) just subvert jokes that are no longer acceptable.

“I know, lets have this twat who makes prejudiced remarks/jokes so we can laugh at the joke, but do it in a socially acceptable middle class way that outwardly re-enforces our own lack of prejudice, because we don’t have the balls to do it straight up any more.”

Well that’s what I think happens in +90% of the country anyway.

People like Frank Boyle or Ricky Gervace are getting laughs from offensive material. What was the guy in the clip above doing? Trying to get a bit of a laugh/joke/props/affirmation/whatever by talking about someone smashing someone in.

People like Boyle or Gervais are there to vent for the general public. They provide a serious public service - so we can laugh off prejudice, racism, ignorance and sexism.

The Office racist sketch was genius, however, I think that a lot of the time, the truth is comedians (and audiences) just subvert jokes that are no longer acceptable.

“I know, lets have this twat who makes prejudiced remarks/jokes so we can laugh at the joke, but do it in a socially acceptable middle class way that outwardly re-enforces our own lack of prejudice, because we don’t have the balls to do it straight up any more.”

Well that’s what I think happens in +90% of the country anyway.

It's not the joke thats funny though, its the idea that the guy thought the joke was funny/that everyone would laugh. its not a secret ploy to cover up laughing at racist jokes, its exposing that.

I think too many people are too interested in setting a moral code by which they think everyone else should abide by, getting all offended on behalf of a third party. In life the only thoughts and behaviour you can truly control is your own, so all you can do is set an example by living out the values you hold dear. Do what you think is right in the context of your own experience. I didn't even know about this shitty matter until Multi Grooves pointed it out.