Proper leather shoes

You could wait till they need resoling?
Personally I’ve persisted with leather soles but finally given up....for now at least.

Depends.

If he values the back of his skull?
Or enjoys the weird donkey kicks you do on wet days....
Yes I’m grumpy about it

Rubber soles for winter, leather soles for summer, innit.

I’ve never binned it with leather soles - but I do avoid wearing them in the wet, largely because of the potential damage the water could do to the shoe.

Worth having a few pairs that come from the factory with a rubber sole imho rather than retrofitting to leather soles.

Vibram stick on soles are made of unobtanium. So hard wearing.

No - maybe a metal toe protector.
Yes. Topies (rubber half soles) is standard practice.
You could wait till they need resoling?
Depends.
Rubber soles for winter, leather soles for summer, innit.

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Seeing those indy’s caused another google search for some for a good price... behold these offerings, no doubt they’re shite but thought I’d share!

https://www.boutiqueengland.co.uk/leather-biker-shoes-boots/cowboy-western-boutiqueengland-shoes-boots.html

mine were double that but I reckon a bit better

I’ve had 2 pairs of shoes resoled at factory and 1 by a cobbler with a sole suitable to the shoe and all have been great. I now only own to leather soled pairs.
Old flagstones are the worst combo I find.

Also picked up some Pantherella socks in TMaxx. 2x 3 packs £6.99 each

Bargainz, where from?

Drakes - luckily they gave me the inside scoop so I managed to pick these up. I always have to hold myself back in that place!

Ps swap you for the Sinn 🤪

Ha, well if they were the color 8 penny loafers you might’ve persuaded me.

Drakes on Saville Row or the factory shop?

Indys I find so comfy, but I find i never seem to wear mine as get caught between what I actually usually wear like trickers/quoddy oxfords or just proper boots like redwings.

And actually normally just in converse

Factory shop - they just got the new last seasons stuff in today

They’ve got some size 9 samples of their own shoes including some mint driving loafers. I’m not a size 9

They’re next on my Color 8 list. Or perhaps the low vamp color 8s... spenny though. Obviously.

As a caution to anyone driving loafers tend to come up small in my experience. I’ve yet to find any that aren’t over £400~ that fit I’m a UK 12/13.
Anyone looking I’d recommend Bobbies about £130, given how quickly this sort of shoe wears.

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Er, dibs indys!

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My dad has switched to rubber soles. Mainly opting to spaff £ with C&J and Trickers than resoling. But also some covers and resoles as shoes have needed resoling anyway.

He is in his 70s, clumsy and also wears Crocs indoors. I may be wrong, but I feel like that's not you.

I don't have to be as smart for work anymore, but previously my system was:

• Rubber covered Oxfords for rainy days
  
• Rubber sole smart Loake boots for winter and really bad weather
  
• Mix/rotation of leather soles all the rest of the time.
  
  

Worth saying that I used to almost always get changed at work, so generally wasn't walking to/from work.

Also worth saying unfortunately I'm an irrational snob on some things. I believe rubber soled leather shoes have a place, but should be the exception and the default should always be leather.

I generally would have agreed with the above, and do prefer the appearance of a leather sole, but do find that they wear out so much quicker than a hard rubber sole/heel (dainite or similar) with the latter also being more comfortable.

I've ended up rubber covering my leather-soled Trickers which are in regular rotation. Have kept leather soles to my summery leather-soled loafers though.

Obvs if you are picking up a sale bargain then you get what's on offer but if paying full price I think I would opt for a dainite sole which looks identical (unless you spend all day with your feet up on the table like some kind of alpha business man).

feet up on the table like some kind of alpha business man

This is how I imagine all users of this thread.

Other than DJ obvs, who I picture living on the set of a Filson shoot

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I have that coat!