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• #577
Sorry James, I will be avoiding you for all the rest of my life. I am one person that doesn't fall for you manipulation. I'll say this though, it is supremely effective, because even highly intelligent people that I respectt fall for it. Not me though.
You just responded to me...
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• #578
I think many of you people have only lived under one type of government. I've lived in many countries, and under many different types of governments.....therefore I can contrast and compare,
And thats why I see a lot of benefit in this particular monarch(y), and think that the UK is lucky.
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• #579
The only thing we both hasn't been under is an absolute monarchy system.
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• #581
Gaggy, an absolute monarchy, not a constitutional monarchy, we've not lived with the former.
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• #582
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Both, courtesy of the genius of Cecil Beaton.
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• #585
Envy. It is such a nasty, smelly affair.
You lot need a wash.
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• #586
But you appear to be envious of my allegedly Machiavellian powers of manipulation.
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• #587
Despite the neg reps that I have received, I will not quickly relinquish my view that Royal families can be a force for good, and at the least, of stability. Its not perfect, far from it, but in many places, it works, and works very well. And in the main, the people love them...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_II;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Juan_Carlos_I_of_Spain;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassanal_Bolkiah,_Sultan_of_Brunei;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihito;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_II_of_Jordan;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhumibol_Adulyadej;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_II_of_Belgium;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margrethe_II_of_Denmark;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Adam_II_of_Liechtenstein;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_V_of_Norway;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_XVI_Gustaf_of_SwedenThat's a different discussion. I'm OK with having an unelected arbitrary head of state, but that's exactly what they are, arbitrary, irrelevant in everything except name.
Celebrating their years of service is silly tiresome shite. Any excuse for a party, fine, but revering these prats is absurd.
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• #588
Envious of you James? I would easier be envious of diptheria. You revulse me absolutely.
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• #589
Envious of the queen? I would easier be envious of diptheria. She revulses me absolutely.
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• #590
Seems the forum is divided
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2 The queen is rank
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• #591
Ashe, in what way are you avoiding me, is it in reality, virtually or some other manner?
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• #592
Ashe, in what way are you avoiding me, is it in reality, virtually or some other manner?
I won't go on the Popcorn thread, and neither the Depression thread.
For me, there will never be a need. And by lucky happenstance, those are your hangouts.
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• #593
Bollocks, only just seen WW's queen meme!
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• #594
Long live The Queen.
Hip Hip
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. I enjoyed that program too. Looking forward to the nice long weekend and all the festivities.
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I won't go on the Popcorn thread, and neither the Depression thread.
For me, there will never be a need. And by lucky happenstance, those are your hangouts.
Actually in threads like the offroad one I have a much higher postcount and percentage of overall involvement.
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Andy (I'll now leave the ne'er-do-wells alone, and have a discourse with more enlightened people - though we respect each other for our differences)..........
Years ago, a little lady was sent from Grenada to the UK. Her mission? To report to Buckingham Palace. Her punishment? To receive an MBE. That was in the days when people had to do something remarkable to earn such a recognition, and not just sweep streets, as John Major had it changed to.
This lady was a school teacher. But it was not teaching that brought her to the attention of others....it was her fight against the authorities.
It was her view, that back in the 1950s, it seemed very unfair, that children had to go to adult prisons.....as there were no children's prisons in the Caribbean. She fought with words......letters to people that might be sympathetic.....and after much time....she won. A Child Court was set up, and the associated detention facilities also.
I'm related to her. Its little things like that, that matter, to an almost invisible people, on a tiny island, far away. We older West Indians, are nearly all Royalists. Ask around.
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Yes Tiswas.
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We older West Indians, are nearly all Royalists. Ask around.
csb
Didn't know this
Gaggy, you made James sound like a villain out of a James Bond novel trying to cause harm upon you.
Stop taking the internet seriously.