Stop the Cuts - National Demonstration

how comes so many Brits are dying to get to the penal colony now then? years ago they paid you to go.

The dopey bastards have finally realised that being warm, having space is better than living next door to the French.

not woken from your stupor then.

The dopey bastards have finally realised that being warm, having space is better than living next door to the French.

The Welsh and the Scots are "next door" the French are over the road.

You've lost me here ? I am not sure what you are saying.

I am asking you how you think - for example - the education cuts can be avoided with the use of violence, could you roughly outline what you think the process might be ?

I said violence has effected every major political change not. I also said I support violence and not politics in general.

The only political change I care about would be establishing myself as the supreme leader of a brutal dictatorship. I realize this can only happen after a period of civil unrest, so for now I support general civil unrest.

I'll make education free, there will also be public executions.

not woken from your stupor then.

When I tire of earning GBP and the AUD is back to where it should be I'll trade this dog box in London into a nice big beach-side house in Melbourne. I'll send you guys a postcard. :)

The Welsh and the Scots are "next door" the French are over the road.

I come from a much bigger country. Germany is "next door" in my mind.

When I tire of earning GBP and the AUD is back to where it should be I'll trade this dog box in London into a nice big beach-side house in Melbourne. I'll send you guys a postcard. :)

So you'll be leaving the missus here then, you heartless bastard

I'll make education free, there will also be public executions.

Can I be your minster of death.

you heartless bastard

Winner!

When I tire of earning GBP and the AUD is back to where it should be I'll trade this dog box in London into a nice big beach-side house in Melbourne. I'll send you guys a postcard. :)

I remember when we could get three of your plastic dollars for one pound. It's like the strength of your currency is inverse to how well your cricket team is doing. If Ricky Ponting retires as captain you might be able to retire too.

I remember those days too.. unfortunately they were when I was buying UK DVDs and having them shipped to Oz. Fucking propping up your country even then, I was!

Can I be your minster of death.

Jobs already been taken, sorry.

I fit into that '30s' demographic now. I was working night shift at Australia Post sorting mail from 1am-7am and then going to uni (last class on Tue finished at 9.30pm) and then 1hr train home, slept for a few hours and then rinse repeat. But I had dual income parents so didn't get any monies off my government to spend on booze books. I still owe my parents $15k (though my old man waived that when I bought my flat, saying he just used the debt to make sure I kept working).

Good fucking god, what a stupid comment, really fucking stupid.

I remember things a little differently, I remember leaving college at 5pm to eat and then get to my evening job in Farringdon which took me from 7pm to 2am (paste up / proof reading / general dogs body) and getting back to a shitty flat share in Palmers Green at 3.30am - 4 days a week for 3 years. I also came out of college into a recession and was on the dole for 4 fucking years.

You seem to have some stupidly naïve view of our generation ("your generation") of it consisting entirely of well off middle class families. Incredibly stupid assumptions.

having just read this, this is how uni was for me, i did 4 years, first year i had to pay my own fee's i worked 20-25 hours a week on top of my uni time the whole time i was there to fund my way though uni, then student loan paid my fee's the maintenance just coverd my rent, after every payment i was left with £200ish to last 3 months, (hence me working)

the diffrence being is how much do you two ow (not the 15k to dad thats somethign else) back to the government to do your education? it was probably free right? me i ow roughly 30,000,

THIRTY FUCKING THOUSAND POUNDS!

now one thing i'm sick of hearing is people moan about tax money, students only don't pay tax if they earn under the same threshold as everyone else, about 7000 right? that because often students only work summer jobs. not enough to get tax'd in a financial year.

now what fucks me off is that since i was 16 i've paid tax, working a 20-25 hour a week job ment i paid some tax, so not only was i paying tax while at uni, i now have to pay back money i took from the tax payer, while being a tax payer at them time and also paying tax still at the same time, While some people can get tax money for doing shit fucking all and never have to worry about paying it back,

how is that fair????

its bad enough for me, imagine if you ow 50,000? like the new scheme means? thats just wrong. I'd have loved to be there for the 'riot' and im definatly going to the next one.

regardless of what you think of the people who smashed stuff up i think it shows how most where probably just angry

I'm failing to see your point. You're upset because you had to pay the same tax as everyone else?

If I didn't have a debt to my dad I'd have a 25% larger one to the government that my employer would automatically pay back when I earned over the payback income threshold.

Yeah if it's more expensive you will be paying it off for longer. So? Same as any other loan.

I'm failing to see your point. You're upset because you had to pay the same tax as everyone else?

If I didn't have a debt to my dad I'd have a 25% larger one to the government that my employer would automatically pay back when I earned over the payback income threshold.

Yeah if it's more expensive you will be paying it off for longer. So? Same as any other loan.

i'm upset that i have to pay Tax and then pay more back on top for something that should be free. When i could have sat on my arse for 4 years and taken handouts,(*) and not have to pay it back

to me it seems wrong to penalize those who wish to educate themselves.

• Ment in a people who choose not to work way not attacking those who where/are truely in need of handouts.
  

Why did you go yo university at all?

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Good fucking god, what a stupid comment, really fucking stupid.

I remember things a little differently, I remember leaving college at 5pm to eat and then get to my evening job in Farringdon which took me from 7pm to 2am (paste up / proof reading / general dogs body) and getting back to a shitty flat share in Palmers Green at 3.30am - 4 days a week for 3 years. I also came out of college into a recession and was on the dole for 4 fucking years.

You seem to have some stupidly naïve view of our generation ("your generation") of it consisting entirely of well off middle class families. Incredibly stupid assumptions.

I never said anyone didn't work hard. My point was more that the deal on offer has got worse and worse. It peaked for the baby boomers (people my parents age, in their 50s/60s now) and went downhill from there. I never said anything about everyone being middle class either. The point stands that relatively speaking the generation that were mostly on that march have got or will be getting the bummest deal ever. So those of us - including me - (I'm definitely including myself - I was at university 1998-2001 and I got into a good university with shit a-levels on the strength of a personal statement, paid £42 a week rent in halls and left with a total of £11k debt) who got a better one should give 'em a break.

Lots of things the coalition are doing will affect young people disproportionately. And on top of that, as Crumb pointed out, they get negative rep from lots of sides for pretty much anything they do. That was pretty much my point really, stop hating on the young uns, but I possibly didn't explain it very well.

i'm upset that i have to pay Tax and then pay more back on top for something that should be free. When i could have sat on my arse for 4 years and taken handouts,(*) and not have to pay it back
to me it seems wrong to penalize those who wish to educate themselves.

• Ment in a people who choose not to work way not attacking those who where/are truely in need of handouts.
  
  

Should it be free?

These 'handouts' are what exactly (I'm not that familiar with the UK's free money policies) and are these benefits means tested?

Why did you go yo university at all?

to lern

lolz

The whole island is a prison, including the little shitty bit hanging off the bottom

they're called 'tagnuts'

Should it be free?

These 'handouts' are what exactly (I'm not that familiar with the UK's free money policies) and are these benefits means tested?

it should be free as it always was before, i don't get why something as useful as university would be paid for, or at least the courses that need to be done to do some jobs,

as for handouts, housing benefit, job seekers and things like that. some are means tested, some arn't but there are a lot of people who choose to live on them indefinitely.

it should be free as it always was before, i don't get why something as useful as university would be paid for, or at least the courses that need to be done to do some jobs,

as for handouts, housing benefit, job seekers and things like that. some are means tested, some arn't but there are a lot of people who choose to live on them indefinitely.

I guess because it costs a lot of money. Someone on the radio the other day made the point of 'why should a binman subsidise someone who will go on to earn maybe 3-4 times his salary?' and I think it's a fair point. A student replied 'graduates are good for the country and economy as a whole', which i thought sounded reminiscent of bankers

If you have been watching the news the last few weeks you will see that benefits are getting very unappealing indeed

^because those people contribute to everyone's quality of life...? (scientists, doctors, nurses...)

what a stupid argument. works better as "why should we pay for unemployed people to survive?"

even then it's moronic

as for handouts, housing benefit, job seekers and things like that. some are means tested, some arn't but there are a lot of people who choose to live on them indefinitely.

Did you believe this six months ago? Or, perhaps, have you been taken in by the Tory propaganda that aims to divide and rule: don't take* my* money, take it off the lazy benefit scroungers. There are loads of them. I think. It was in the papers. Yeh, the Tory supporting papers. But it's still true.