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All he did was say he was in the HQ? So that's trespass, assuming they could prove it...
Bob Crow was on the radio this afternoon talking about this, for once in my life I actually agreed with him - he was saying that although he condemns violence the fact is that the stuff that happened has put the issue much higher up the agenda than it would otherwise have been. That's the point.
As far as I can see there are lots of people here comfortably in the their 30s with good jobs and mortgages criticising the younger generation for a protest which resulted in a minor amount of criminal damage when this generation will never have the cushy student finance arrangements and ease of entry into the jobs market that your generation has and that's what they're quite rightly pissed off about.
And all the judging people just by how they look? Really shallow, actually.
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That's Dean and Marks Hairdressers!- that's were I go to get my barnet weaved. Both absolute legends, and let you bring your bike in whilst you're there.
As you were.
Yeah they're great aren't they? Ask them about the poll tax riots if you've never talked to them about it. I think I've referred about 20 people to them over the years, so many people I know get their haircuts there!
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I was part of the demo against Maggies Poll tax
seems to me these days that the speed of transmission just turns these events into part of the general media- stream, there is, to me at least a disconnection between what we see and the reasons behind it, if you didnt read the papers reports today about Clegg and the party line on fees, relative to the whole sequence, then what meaning does the 'anarchy' have? its just some photos of something happening in London for a minute,
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As far as I can see there are lots of people here comfortably in the their 30s with good jobs and mortgages criticising the younger generation for a protest which resulted in a minor amount of criminal damage when this generation will never have the cushy student finance arrangements and ease of entry into the jobs market that your generation has and that's what they're quite rightly pissed off about.
And all the judging people just by how they look? Really shallow, actually.
what, and your point is that people are making assumptions? you then go on to make a huge amount of assumptions yourself
Some of us here saw their dad's on the picket lines getting charged by horses during the miners strike and themselves took part in the poll tax protests where the police were less than gentle
your generalisations are a touch shallow, non?
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There's no point just aimlessly blaming other people. Fact is these cuts are affecting us as students, and people younger than us.
For my part my mother as a widower and working as a social worker, with 3 children currently in full time education, feel that the current cuts are unacceptable, but I have no anti-feelings of those that have previously prospered from the way the education system has previously been run. Both my parents went to university as mature students and both gained MA's mainly through grants. My main reason for protesting is that my brother as a college student will face an EMA cut of 1500 pounds a year, and then have to look at anywhere upwards of say 50,000 pounds worth of debt to be saddled with after university. All the while the university budgets are being cut by 40%, and so emphasis is no longer placed on university being a place of learning and bettering yourself. Why cripple prospective students? I am much more in favour of a graduate tax, as it would appear to be a fairer way of re-couping money. -
He wouldn't be silly enough to state this on a public forum and have a picture of himself on his profile though.
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i was there, and im proud of it.
all i'm guilty of is tresspassing. Heaven forbid, i think the police should focus solely on trying to catch me, along with everyone else in the building, rather than the people on the roof, and actually doing the destruction. Monko stated on the page before that he was there but he was taking photos and no one says anything.
i took a few photos, shall i post them and pretend to be middle class and then will you all calm down abit?
I doubt it, because im one of the 'youth of today' and all i do is go around happy slapping and mugging old people right??? -
Some shocking apostrophe abuse on here.
I was reminded of one of my favourite greengrocer's apostrophes when I saw it again last week-end, although it isn't actually a greengrocers's greengrocers's apostrophe, but on a shop called:
ALLSORT'S
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I doubt it, because im one of the 'youth of today' and all i do is go around happy slapping and mugging old people right???
You go around dressed as a banana skin, and you're a slippery character.
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I am much more in favour of a graduate tax, as it would appear to be a fairer way of re-couping money.
Fairer how? The government's proposals actually look a lot like a graduate tax when you start to read the details:
Repayments are linked to earnings, and are at a marginal rate of 9% on income over 21k. That's equivalent to 1.44 pence in the pound for someone earning 25k, 2.7p for someone on 30k, 4.3p on 40k, 5.2p on 50k or 7.1p on 100k. Earning less than 21k? You pay nothing.
The interest varies with income too, from 0 below 21k, up to inflation + 3% if you're earning 40k or more. And they write off whatever's left after 30 years. It looks even less like a real loan than the ones they were handing out when i took my degree.
One of the objections to a graduate tax is that it becomes an incentive for graduates to leave the country to escape it. This looks to me like a graduate tax with that flaw potentially fixed. The other way it's not like a tax is that it won't take money from those who have already graduated or are studying now. Are you objecting to this because it won't cost you?
I don't have a settled view on what should be done about funding universities, but I hope those who do are not confusing what's actually been said with the idea of saddling students with commercial loans for these amounts.
I've voted Lib-dem at times, and admired some (but not all) of their policies, but even if i was sure fees are the right answer, i'd still be sick at the way they've gone back on their pledge on this.
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That's kinda how it works in Australia.
If you can afford to pay your uni bill up front you get an immediate 25% discount. Great incentive to drop some cash if you've got it.
If you cannot, your fees become a HECS (higher education contribution scheme) debt that is paid off from your wages when you start to earn over certain amounts.
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TBF though Hippy, there aren't many Aussies in higher education.
You might be joking but you might be right too. There's a great deal of practical/physical jobs that don't require university education in Oz you see? "Real" work those blue collar types like to call it.
Fuck that though. reclines in office chair
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According to the report, between 1995 and 2002, enrolment in higher education, which includes university-level education and high-level vocational programmes, has increased by more than 20% in the UK, Australia, Finland, Ireland, Mexico, Portugal, Spain and Sweden; and by over 50% in the Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Korea and Poland. On average across OECD countries, 51% of the population now enter universities 'at some stage during their life'. At 47%, the entry rate for the UK is below the average, and far behind that of Australia (77%), Sweden (75%), Iceland (72%), Finland (71%) and Poland (70%).
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/187279-What-of-the-Worlds-population-had-a-higher-education
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As far as I can see there are lots of people here comfortably in the their 30s with good jobs and mortgages criticising the younger generation for a protest which resulted in a minor amount of criminal damage when this generation will never have the cushy student finance arrangements and ease of entry into the jobs market that your generation has and that's what they're quite rightly pissed off about.
Good fucking god, what a stupid comment, really fucking stupid.
I remember things a little differently, I remember leaving college at 5pm to eat and then get to my evening job in Farringdon which took me from 7pm to 2am (paste up / proof reading / general dogs body) and getting back to a shitty flat share in Palmers Green at 3.30am - 4 days a week for 3 years. I also came out of college into a recession and was on the dole for 4 fucking years.
You seem to have some stupidly naïve view of our generation ("your generation") of it consisting entirely of well off middle class families. Incredibly stupid assumptions.
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I fit into that '30s' demographic now. I was working night shift at Australia Post sorting mail from 1am-7am and then going to uni (last class on Tue finished at 9.30pm) and then 1hr train home, slept for a few hours and then rinse repeat. But I had dual income parents so didn't get any monies off my government to spend on
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i was there, and im proud of it.
all i'm guilty of is tresspassing.They will, if they pursue you, try to prove otherwise.
I would delete your posts if I were you, seriously, I am not criticising you or making any point about the protests being a good or bad thing, just pointing out that it's not to your advantage to have this stuff on the record (regardless of where you believe you stand legally).
Have a quick read here:
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what an utter penis[/QUOTE]
He wouldn't be silly enough to state this on a public forum and have a picture of himself on his profile though.
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