How To Lock Your Bike

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Major overkill confusion. i dont know whether this goes in here or how not to lock...

Deserves reposting. Seatpost and saddle + cockpit could still be grabbed though. Funny a$$ bike

This is how I'm currently locking my bike up at home, can anyone reccomend how to improve the technique? It's a chain (14mm I think) round the post, locked with a mini evo through the frame and front wheel and a mini fahg through the frame and rear wheel. If I had money to spare I'd get a thicker chain and a beefy padlock for it but to be honest even the 14mm is overkill for the area, especially considering the rest of my family leave their bikes unlocked a few metres away.

http://imgur.com/9sXa5ri.jpg

that chains a bit useless if you're using a mini evo to lock it up, they only have to be cut in one place before they're free. A better padlock would be a good investment

Woah. Total over kill.

^^yeah that's true, I hadn't thought of that. I'll have to wait until I get paid I think. Can anyone reccomend a decent padlock that won't send me too much further into my overdraft? I'd rather go overkill for the peace of mind, especially seeing as I don't have to carry any of the locks very often at all at the moment.

It's a shame the fahg won't fit through the links in the chain really, that'd be better than the evo.

I'd suggest double-checking the actual thickness of that chain. If it's one of ours (I can't tell from the photo), the grey-coloured sleeve would normally indicate just an 11mm thick chain, and we would normally only recommend that up to about £1500 bike value, depending.

We also normally prefer putting the chain through the main triangle and the rear triangle and rear wheel. With the arrangement you've got now, it looks like a thief could make a single cut of the down tube of the frame, drop the front wheel out, and steal the rest of the bike. That wrecks the frame, of course, but he gets all the components and rear wheel with only a single easy cut. He can deal with the other D-lock at his leisure. A heavier chain that will fit the Fahgettaboudit might be cheaper than a second Fahgettaboudit and allow you to tether the rear half of the bike, still using the Mini on the front wheel.

All this assumes the post that the chain goes around has something solid at the top so it can't all be lifted up and over...

^ I will check the thickness of the chain! It was bought on here a while ago and I could be getting confused! Either way the bike in question is probably worth about 1/5th of the £1500 upper suggested limit for the 11mm if it turns out that that is what it is after all. I will use your technique going through the main and rear triangles and rear wheel. Thanks for the advice! Any reccomendations for a chain that would fit the fahg through as an alternative to a new padlock would be appreciated as well.

Also, that post is holding up a roof so there's no chance of the bike being lifted over the top.

^ I will check the thickness of the chain! It was bought on here a while ago and I could be getting confused! Either way the bike in question is probably worth about 1/5th of the £1500 upper suggested limit for the 11mm if it turns out that that is what it is after all. I will use your technique going through the main and rear triangles and rear wheel. Thanks for the advice! Any reccomendations for a chain that would fit the fahg through as an alternative to a new padlock would be appreciated as well.

You're welcome. The Fahgettaboudit Mini we have here measures 21.2mm maximum thickness across the plastic covering, so our Protector 13mm chain should fit that although it could be close as the nominal internal link width is 22mm and that does vary slightly from batch to batch. Feel free to specify 22mm internal width if you decide to order and we can check what we've got. Feel free to PM me if you want a link to our web site as I may get moaned at for spamming if I put links in here! You might also get away with an offcut that is shorter than our normal minimum length of 0.8m - again, PM me what length you might need and we can see if we can help out without breaking the bank for you!

Cheers,

Steve.

I would put the Fah' around the head tube and post along with the chain in the same place for the front wheel and frame, then Mini Evo' on the rear wheel, seems safer?

I would put the Fah' around the head tube and post along with the chain in the same place for the front wheel and frame, then Mini Evo' on the rear wheel, seems safer?

I think that's potentially a good idea except ltc said the existing chain won't fit on the Fahgettaboudit, and having the chained lock on the head tube might still allow a scrote to remove the handlebars and lift the lock up 'n' over to the top tube and cut that to release lock and chain, after releasing the front wheel. We prefer the seat tube and rear triangle routing for the chain because the scrote can't take the rear wheel off without making a second cut of the frame or of the wheel & tyre, none of which are likely to be appealing to him. Still good approaches and probably all sufficient for this value of bike (although a scrote often won't know how much a bike is worth, of course).

ahh i see, then a padlock is needed for the chain!

You're welcome. The Fahgettaboudit Mini we have here measures 21.2mm maximum thickness across the plastic covering, so our Protector 13mm chain should fit that although it could be close as the nominal internal link width is 22mm and that does vary slightly from batch to batch. Feel free to specify 22mm internal width if you decide to order and we can check what we've got. Feel free to PM me if you want a link to our web site as I may get moaned at for spamming if I put links in here! You might also get away with an offcut that is shorter than our normal minimum length of 0.8m - again, PM me what length you might need and we can see if we can help out without breaking the bank for you!

Cheers,

Steve.

That's really kind! I'll have a measure and PM you tomorrow!

Wife & I locked up in town last night, thusly. Flame on.

^ Not great tbh, cables could be cut easily. Wife bike could be taken minus front wheel assuming that is a D lock (can't tell the brand). Krypto cable isnt really doing anything. Also fence its locked to isn't very secure. Thompson stem and seatpost could be nicked quickly

Nice bikes though, Fork on the pomp looks great.

Krypto Cable was to deter casual front-end/fork thief.
Wife's frame has Abus S-o-F Granit through rear triangle, her rear rim & my front rim.
D-Lock is Abus Granit Futura, also runs through Pomp seatstays & railing.
It was so tight against the iron railing, you'd really struggle to get tools in there.
Plenty of Feds on foot patrol too.

Nice tyres.

What would you do...
Kryptonite mini-D 4-series around frame and rear, with kryptoflex cable around front.
or
Kryptonite mini-D 4-series around frame and front, with atomic22 track nut rear.

Why not:
Kryptonite mini-D 4-series around frame and front, with kryptoflex cable around front and atomic22 track nut rear?

Or is it that you're on a budget and have yet to buy these things?

It was a shit way of asking how secure they are. Already bought one.
Would a thief simply get down with a spanner, see it, walk off?

Almost built the new bike, one that I do not want to lose anything off. Don't want to ave to carry another mini-D but reckon I should... or is a mini-D rendered obsolete by the atomic nut?
(hence the cable to dissuade people from even getting down...)

Obviously the more the better but I think regardless of the atomics, the flex cable is a good idea because it will put them off visually.

There's too much risk that a thief who eyes up a nice wheel and realises he can't get at it won't just kick the shit out of the rims instead...

yeah.
so mini-d the front, cable and atomic the rear?

but...
my thinking is that a thief knows a rear is worth more than a front, so would find a bike with just a cable around the rear worth looking at...
get down, clock the atomic, get pissed... kick?

over-thinking ?

Yeah over thinking. They will go for someone without even a cable firstly (there's always an idiot about), and just having two methods will mean they scope it out and see the atomics. You're probably ok with that. Although NB the 4-series doesn't qualify for "locks that work", although it's stronger than many things used by a lot of people