Getting out of phone contract

probably something to do with the length of phone service contract and whether or not they're being rotated in or out of frontline service.

Fucking hell. I haven't read all of this, but I apologise for mentioning the war.

i think the forum is just itching for it's own personal bloodbath of badly aimed smart bombs, helicopter gunships attacking the wrong people, clusterfucks and people ready to go out on "kill squads".

I'm also surprised that a soldier facing the possibility of being posted to the front line would sign up for a contract rather than a pay-as-you-go phone.

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Too true, I wouldn't take out a phone contract move abroad a month later and moan that they wouldn't cancel it.

You assume (wrongly) that everyone shares your view that our sovereignty is something to be cherished and maintained.

So what would you propose instead?

If you could give a working example of a country in the world today that reflects your views that would be smashing.

Sell the phone, pay off contract and leave on good terms, bad credit rating is not worth it in case you decide to come back.

If you could give a working example of a country in the world today that reflects your views that would be smashing.

not sure this is exactly what you were after, but costa rica, iceland, lichtenstein, panama, monaco, haiti and many more do not have armies.

or were you asking for an example of where british sovereignty is not cherished? members of the SNP, plaid cyrmu..

In what way are our forces in Iraq or Afghanistan protecting our sovereignty?

Via neg-rep from James: "22nd September 2010 23:27 dancing james you vacuous cunt, they are not protecting sovereignty"

This is true- I never said they were, if you had troubled to both read and comprehend what I wrote you would know that.

I suggest that in future you might consider following the text with a finger and reading it out loud to yourself- you might have better luck in understanding it when you can process it more slowly. If you still have no luck then maybe ask a grown-up?

Sell the phone, pay off contract and leave on good terms, bad credit rating is not worth it in case you decide to come back.

yeah will do this, drop the tariff to the lowest and pay out.

anyone want a htc hd2 for cheap, 4.2" screen. got 2 battery's only couple months old. £200+

I understand Big not wanting a pay as you go, my mate from frnace has been over lately and ringing and texting him has been a fucking nightmare, literallyt having to buy a ten quid top up every 6 effing hours. thank my stars that I got my contract sorted with three, you just cannot believ how many pay as you go vouchers make up a 600-900 minute contract...it's total lunacy.

As a soldier, yes, I do think you should have a special conract that can be held or annulled at short notice (ans as someone else said they woukld benefit from the publicity of 'helping out heroes'....though as I said before you are not going to get the sympathy vote in a site full of cycling conscientious objectors...

can't really be a conscientious objector without conscription.

As a soldier, yes, I do think you should have a special conract that can be held or annulled at short notice

Everybody can have a contract which can be cancelled at 30 days notice - it's called O2 Simplicity. Presumably other providers have similar "SIM only" contracts. What you, I or Tommy Atkins can't have is a £400 handset subsidy for nothing.

DJ - I may have missed something, but where on this thread are there people who are pro-invasion? Who said anything to promote the invasion? Who are these fictitious Daily Mail readers?

I am not supporting the invasion - just to make that clear - the copy of the Daily Mail in my recycling, underneath the fair trade coffee jar, came free with my home delivered Tesco shopping, hidden beneath the sweet potatoes.

There are a myriad of reasons for why some people go into the army. It's not as simple as, "oh, what should I do with my life? I know, I'll go and shoot people." I'm not a sociologist so won't try and go into depth, but there are people who find themselves feeling like there is nothing else they can do. How to give those particular people the help they need to develop themselves needs to be addressed more thoroughly to give them more options. But that's not the point here.

Mobile phones - they did sign up to a fixed contract knowing (especially in this day and age) that they will have to be out of the country for extended periods of time. Obviously, a great PR move (putting them in favour of those pro forces) would be for the companies to waive or suspend the line rental but they are still businesses, they are going to want to protect their bottom line. If these people had been forced into service, after they had signed the contract, then it would be a different matter. But, in this instance, they are victim to their own foresight.

but what do I know...

Well, I am operating on the assumption that having some form of army/navy/body of people whose job it is to maintain sovereignty is a handy thing to have.

It would be rather churlish not to support them if one believes them to be needed?

If they were protecting our sovereignty,then fantastic. But they are not so why do we need to support them?

Otherwise your logic could be applied to support a child molesting teacher. Their purpose is to teach (which at least the teacher is doing) but there is the slightly off key side effect of them sometimes raping kids.

The soldiers chose to enter into fixed term phone contracts, knowing they might be sent away.

So yes support them when they are actually serving a sensible or righteous cause, but this one is not. I would still think there are better ways to support the military and armed forces rather than just helping out the ones too stupid to realise a fixed term contract may not be the best idea given their chosen profession.

Hang on James, your example (which is typical of you, well done) only works if soldiers choose what to do, which (from my extensive studying of WWII films watched on bank holidays when younger at my Grandparents) is not the case?

i.e. they are ordered to go and then ordered to do stuff whilst there.

It would be perfectly possible for the majority of soldiers currently on active duty to disagree strongly with the conflict that they are engaged in prosecuting.

DJ : so, now you're saying our soldiers rape kids because they can't get out of their phone contracts?

is there no END to your sicko claims about our brave lads?

this is the giddy limit.

It would be perfectly possible for the majority of soldiers currently on active duty to disagree strongly with the conflict that they are engaged in prosecuting.

And to take the next rational step of resigning their commission. Nobody holds a gun to their head to go on deployment, so they are balancing their distaste for the conflict against their discomfort at the consequences of refusing to go.

DJ : so, now you're saying our soldiers rape kids because they can't get out of their phone contracts?

Any soldier comes near my kids, I swear I'll do time*

*400 minutes/mo. + unlimited txtz

tester repped

as far as i understand there is no conscription, the soldiers chose to be soldiers and also chose their fixed term contracts

the clever ones did not chose fixed term contracts, so why offer a benefit only to the idiots?

And to take the next rational step of resigning their commission. Nobody holds a gun to their head to go on deployment, so they are balancing their distaste for the conflict against their discomfort at the consequences of refusing to go.

Exposing my ignorance (again)- can you just give notice and leave the army?

I thought you signed up for a set period, during which you were committed to stay?

Just realised the parallel, heh.

Dammits argument seemed to be if someone is doing a good job we should support them

Defending sovereignty - a good thing, so we need to support the army in what they do

My point was that unconditionally supporting someone because they do a good job (teaching or defending sovereignty) breaks down when they do something which is morally repugnant (raping kids, illegally occupying another country)

Possibly not the best comparison, but I can't be arsed wasting my time with this.

Seriously, its the stupid soldiers who took out fixed contracts, so why offer a benefit only to the morons.

If you wish to support the armed forces I am sure there are more equable ways to do so.

For some reason I keep thinking of this image:

So what would you propose instead?

If you could give a working example of a country in the world today that reflects your views that would be smashing.

I don't propose anything instead.
I just don't care for our sovereignty or the bullshit reasons we are at war.

It would be perfectly possible for the majority of soldiers currently on active duty to disagree strongly with the conflict that they are engaged in prosecuting.

Then more fool them for taking the job in the first place.
Do vegetarians often send CVs to abattoirs?
No, coz chances are employment there would mean killing animals.
If you feel you're likely to disagree with or be offended/disgusted by what you are ordered to do then don't sign up/get your ass the hell out the army asap.