What is my XYZ worth? How much is THIS worth? Value my...

I don't feel welcome here :'(

dont victimize yourself, for the love of God!!

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Wrongcog you have rep.

This.

Oh and if you do flog something on here, pop a few bob in the direction of the forum organisers so that they can continue to run what is a massive site for the benefit of the likes of you and I !

+1

dont victimize yourself, for the love of God!!

It's either this, or a particularly annoying way of trolling.

Kinesis and Nowhere fast, no-one here judges you. They judge your posts. They may make inferences and personal remarks from that, but they basically don't know you, so don't take it too personally. Some more simple tips:

(1) Read far, far more than you post.
(2) Don't go rushing into starting threads when you're new. Get a feel for what sorts of threads get started and which ones are useful or fun.
(3) Accept that this is a geographically-focused forum, and as you're not near London it'll probably be difficult for you to meet people in real life who are on here. However, there are plenty of people who live far away--Norway, Isle of Man, the US--who participate regularly and who post interesting stuff.
(4) Yes, this forum values good spelling and grammar. I don't know how that happened, as when I joined it was already a full-blown theme, and I've never quite found it in myself to object. Whether being insistent on form is a good thing or not, a post just is improved if it's spelled correctly and has good grammar. Again, people don't judge you but your posts.
(5) Try not to give people the impression that you don't heed advice. I'm sure you understand why that's very unpopular.

If I were you, I'd just disappear for a little while, read lots, and post more when you understand the forum better. Good luck.

(4) Yes, this forum values good spelling and grammar. I don't know how that happened, as when I joined it was already a full-blown theme, and I've never quite found it in myself to object. Whether being insistent on form is a good thing or not, a post just is improved if it's spelled correctly and has good grammar. Again, people don't judge you but your posts.

I don't think it's asking too much to insist that people try & communicate properly - all of which is aided by grammar & spelling.

The grammar doesn't have be that good - only GCSE standard.

There are only two possible excuses for poor spelling - dyslexia & being Rik.

Oh, I agree.

I claim my £1 for spotting the deliberate mistake....its not it's.... of course.

I made a grammar mistake, granted, but is the word spelled correctly?

I made a grammar mistake, granted, but is the word spelled correctly?

This is interesting, Ed. Getting the grammar right here is bound up with choosing the correct homophone--of a pair or greater number of words or grammatical phenomena that sound the same--or, in many cases, the right homoiophone--of a pair or greater number of words or grammatical phenomena that sound similar. In this case, a spelling mistake and a grammar mistake go hand in hand. I take it you can hear that "it's" and "its" sound the same, or are you unaware of that? With other, more complicated cases it may be more difficult for you, given that homo(io)phones are often a major problem for people with certain profiles of dyslexia. I'm genuinely interested in how much you can hear of these things given your hearing aid and perhaps other training?

Will write down a brief explantion to my poor grammar related to deafness/dyslexia very soon, heading off to see the missus as we speak.

It's either this, or a particularly annoying way of trolling.

Kinesis and Nowhere fast, no-one here judges you. They judge your posts. They may make inferences and personal remarks from that, but they basically don't know you, so don't take it too personally. Some more simple tips:

(1) Read far, far more than you post.
(2) Don't go rushing into starting threads when you're new. Get a feel for what sorts of threads get started and which ones are useful or fun.
(3) Accept that this is a geographically-focused forum, and as you're not near London it'll probably be difficult for you to meet people in real life who are on here. However, there are plenty of people who live far away--Norway, Isle of Man, the US--who participate regularly and who post interesting stuff.
(4) Yes, this forum values good spelling and grammar. I don't know how that happened, as when I joined it was already a full-blown theme, and I've never quite found it in myself to object. Whether being insistent on form is a good thing or not, a post just is improved if it's spelled correctly and has good grammar. Again, people don't judge you but your posts.
(5) Try not to give people the impression that you don't heed advice. I'm sure you understand why that's very unpopular.

If I were you, I'd just disappear for a little while, read lots, and post more when you understand the forum better. Good luck.

Yep that's understandable and cool with me, I am in need of advice a lot on the subject of road bikes as I come from an MTB background (4 years of XC riding)
I'm quite good with spelling and grammar (I think!!) I also visit London quite often with my girlfriend but don't bring my bike, just to visit central London, I also have a few mates here in Kettering who are from London.
I didn't mind the critique on my thread either, it's far better for honest opinions than people saying "brilliant website" etc.

Cheers for the advice.

Just chill, K, and everything will be OK... :]

Will write down a brief explantion to my poor grammar related to deafness/dyslexia very soon, heading off to see the missus as we speak.

Thanks, Ed, I'd find that really interesting.

Okay, I've written it a dozen or so time, but will write it down again, this is for the deafness, so dyslexia will be written later.

As you know, you first start hearing when you're in your mother's belly, so by the time you're born, your hearing is developed and when you get older your brain said it's normal.
However with me, because I was born deaf and wasn't discovered until I was 2 years old, my hearing hasn't been developed and it's basically 'set' (think of it like a concrete - you lay the foundation and wait for it to set) to not hearing sound and my brain think this is normal.

This make a huge difference in recognising sound, says the difference between the squeal of a double decker bus and a bird's tweet.

Now for the spelling/grammar;

Because I'm deaf, we tend to start 'late' because it take a while to teach us (some are fast learner, some aren't), especially in the english department where you learn the grammar in related to listening/speaking.

Even though I was brought up speaking and listening, my grammar/speech is still a couple or 5 years behind, and because my brain think that the quietness is normal, couldn't really tell the difference between though and thought, since they sound the same to me, much akin to the Japanese who couldn't pronounced 'R' as it wasn't in their language, it's also worth noting that those who learn a secondary language at an early age speak it better than those who learn it later (later - harder to learn).

The other aspect that hindrance my ability with grammar is going to a deaf boarding school where everyone but me use sign language, the school forbid it at lesson time/talking to teacher, but generally we're allowed to sign with each others, sign language is exactly like tezt messaging, shortening the word to push the message out more effective, says *"Hello, how are you? when did you get here?" *which take a while to put it in sign language, so it's shorten to "hello, how you, when you get here?".

There's a lots more to add but I'll leave this for now in case I might get it muddle up.

Thanks, Ed, most of that I already knew (partly from what you've posted before), but it may be of benefit to those who don't know you. I actually thought you'd write something about the joint effect of being deaf and dyslexic? No worries if that's not what you meant, but that's what I'd find really interesting.

This thread is officially derailed.

and? was shit to star with

Oliver, now that you already know about the impact deafness have on people, dyslexic is a problem amongst deaf people because it's harder to detect, I wasn't diagnosed with dyslexic until 3 years ago when I went to university where it really show.

At boarding school, it just look like I was being lazy, I struggle a lots at A-levels and only got a single AS-levels out of it despite an average of B+ on GCSE in all subject (while struggling with geography and science).

Right

I've no idea why I'm throwing my hat into the ring, but this thread hooked me popcorn style right from the off so...

NWF I too am new to this forum and I suppose it's fair to say that it can be a bit intimidating. The truth is that it's the general level of knowledge that the forum regulars have and their dedication to maintaining a forum which is serious and worthwhile - which makes you want to visit. (It's not a government run, publicly funded forum which owes you anything at all by the way). I imagine you and your questions, if genuine, would be welcomed but it takes some input from yourself...

Assuming you're not trolling (just on here to be a pain in the arse) here's how I imagine we newbies can get more out of being members here:

If you're selling anything here, it's not your message board to do whatever you like. You're sticking notices on someone else's carefully organised space. They don't like you to be anything other than generous with all the information required to sell a bike / parts.

Use solid descriptions of what you have and what you'd like to do with it.

Use clear reasonably sized photos.

Place the ad in the Classifieds section and nowhere else.

If it's advice you're after, then be very clear about this also. Place it in the appropriate part of the forum. DON"T be tempted to put a little hint at wanting PMs for a potential sale in there. This is called 'fishing' which means that you're making a sly attempt at a sale without bothering to go through the appropriate channels (a bit like sidling up to people in the pub and asking them if they're in the market for a dodgy tv).

If people patiently tell you how to improve the quality of your post don't throw your toys out! It just makes the piss takers more excitable.

I've only been on here for about 50+ posts and I've managed to suss that much out. Do yourself a favour and have a bit of a think before starting a thread. Spend more time reading the forum than writing on it and you'll find 90% of what you need is already here. Here's an example - a thread started in Classifieds by someone called Elaine selling what sounds like your model of bike. She wants about 270 quid for it which must help you to answer your question without going through all this hassle? It's a good example of a well written sale ad too! http://www.lfgss.com/thread55954.html . I found it by typing Fuji into the search window at the top of the page.

Oh and if you do flog something on here, pop a few bob in the direction of the forum organisers so that they can continue to run what is a massive site for the benefit of the likes of you and I !

read it a bit late but thanks for the advice mate, guess i'm a slow learner and only starting to get used to the site

Desperate to get a bike for the daily commute. Is this here really worth £100? Bear in mind I really need a bike.

http://www.gumtree.com/london/58/75060458.html

no

BSO's, and horrible ones at that.

What is a BSO's?

utfs

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