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OK, thanks.

But I'd still need to bring the cranks inboard to use big/big?

Only if you think you'll be spending more time up that end of the cassette, and maybe even not then. The little cogs get a harder life anyway, so you might as well ease their load by having the better chainline there and accept that the low gears are big enough and ugly enough to look after themselves.

Point taken.

But I've always understood that, above seven speed, big/big resulted in death-by-trashed-drivetrain if you use it more than "accidentally".

My "big dog" is 56, which means a 13t top is plenty: if I use old Campag (111mm BB) then a 109mm BB should give me a decent chainline at the top and a workable one when I'm blowin' out my arse.

If I use new(ish) Campag (102mm) then I'll guess I'll need to stick the Widowmaker on the inside, as I don't know of a 100mm BB.

But I've always understood that, above seven speed, big/big resulted in death-by-trashed-drivetrain if you use it more than "accidentally"

You have to remember that old-school testers who worry about such things will have been brought up in the days before Sedis brought us cheap and bendy bushingless chains in the late 70s. On an old 6-speed block with a stiff, bushed, Regina chain, especially with the ultra-short chainstays which were fashionable in the 1970s, you really could tell when the drivetrain was being pushed to its limits. With modern kit, 1×10 or 1×11 works just fine all the way across the cassette as long as the single chainring is lined up roughly in the middle, i.e at about 42-43mm for 130mm OLN road or 45-47mm for 135mm OLN MTB

Good, so I can run 1x8 (or 9) and use all the sprockets with modest tweaking: thanks for clearing that up.

All that remains then, is to decide whether the durability of eight speed is now outweighed by the retro-tax and if nine speed's greater availability makes it cost effective.

That is, should I cash-in my eight speed chips and reap the retro-harvest?

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I never wear my diving in this thread... sorry if you have ADSL : /

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Good, so I can run 1x8 (or 9) ***or 10 ***and use all the sprockets with modest tweaking...

If you have a good chain-line.

So much "win" in your post, but this is my favourite (my new "wallpaper"): the cranks are 107 or 105? I can't remember, but they are beautiful...

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If the dust cap exist let me know...
cheers Jim.

I miss in LA 84 and syncro II campy shiffters

I always found Synchro difficult to set-up and very temperamental.

Personally, I don't see the point of indexed DTS: why complicate a beautifully simple design?

Isn't there something wrong with your seatpost? ;)

Mine and my bro's, thought they should be here.

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Bro-pros!

Just a quick build of my lo pro, will soon be Indra's but happy to have it for the winter months :)

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Indra is buying it? didnt he just buy a lo-pro?

That's the one I had but he needed a bike for the winter so now he's got it back, he got it painted and now it's a lesalike, really liked the paint before :(

Nahh Indra it was ratty af. It was quite rad but nao...

having in the for sale thread

looked way way way better ratted than pink.

+1
Paint with a story beats fancy new powdercoat every time.

Current rat.

Amen, still kinda regret re-spraying my Reynolds 531 frame

I'm really gonna miss the yellow and rattyness, it seems with the new paint it's lost it's identity and that of the shop 'ruxley cycles' it was once associated with.

For me, the only circumstances in which it is acceptable to repaint a steel frame are when you send it back to its original builder 20 years after you had it custom made for you.

Don't have all this hate for new paint, my lo pro is at the frame builders awaiting new paint right now. In my defense it's going to be exactly the same colour.

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