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  • Nah, I got a child-bearing hips - the girlie ones fit better.
    I just threw up a little into my mouth.

  • I just threw up a little into my mouth.

    For long rides, I use full inco-pants, with elasticated thigh holes.

    Mine are called "Tuff Baby". Street.

  • So James- if you had had your earphones in you'd not have tried to lead us onto that Italian motorway then?

  • Ouch.

  • they ride slowly and inefficiently on piss poor bikes that are poorly maintained

    Finally I've been spotted!

  • So James- if you had had your earphones in you'd not have tried to lead us onto that Italian motorway then?

    No, you misunderstand.

    He was a poor cyclist then. But by wearing headphones everywhere, even in the bath, he has transformed himself.

    Nowadays, he would not make such a mistake. Everyone else would.

  • I'm getting the impression that skydancer hasn't seen this thread yet. Or he could be 738 pages behind, frantically playing catch-up.

    ...just caught up.
    sycling with headphones? (you mean psycling* perhaps)

    (Won't comment on james cycling due to the confidentiality agreement between cycle trainers and their trainees)

    Cycle trainers teach people to rely on their eyes as hearing is so much less reliable. (Can't hear other cyclists, electric vehicles and can't judge speed or distance accurately)

    Whilst I would never recommend to trainee cyclists to wear headphones, more experienced riders may be able to assess how much they rely on their ears rather than looking behind by riding with headphones and so learn to look behind much more.

    (If you ride with headphones and don't look back more then that is riskier than not wearing them)

    I love riding while listening to *psy-trance music which is a great rush when you get into a zone matching the BPM with cadence. It is marginally more risky i think, not because of lack of hearing but because i seem to ride faster and the beat gives me more adrenalin so i may take more risks.

  • I prefer big headphones, I firmly believe that the more other people think you are a nob, the more space they will give you on the road. If you follow this argument to it's illogical conclusion, air guitar is the safest thing to do when riding in traffic. What I do not understand is why they do not cover this in bikeability training.

  • I think there is some truth in that Ramaye. I believe there is some evidence to suggest that drivers go less careful when they see a lycra clad 'proper' cyclist as they feel those types of cyclist know what they are doing so unlikely to wobble around or behave oddly.

  • kerley

    there have been a number of studies that show drivers tend to go closer to daglo helmeted cyclists as they are more worried about hitting less well protected cyclists (who they may also consider to be less able and unpredictable)

  • and don't forget that being female work as well (unless you dress like a boy).

    The space thing is another reason why I wear them, it's easier for them to tell that I'm less likely to hear them coming than a messenger bag that said 'DEAF' in your dearest Helvetica.

  • I reckon that's all a load of cobblers. Where are these "studies" ?

  • http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V5S-4M645C2-2&_user=10&_coverDate=03%2F31%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1421464944&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=d31ba5137732e9966671a6df564a2de4

    Drivers overtaking bicyclists: Objective data on the effects of riding position, helmet use, vehicle type and apparent gender

    References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article.

    ** Ian Walker
    aDepartment of Psychology, University of Bath, Bath BA2 7AY, United Kingdom
    **

    Received 22 June 2006;  
    

    revised 5 August 2006;
    accepted 12 August 2006.
    Available online 24 October 2006.

    Abstract

    A naturalistic experiment used an instrumented bicycle to gather proximity data from overtaking motorists. The relationship between rider position and overtaking proximity was the opposite to that generally believed, such that the further the rider was from the edge of the road, the closer vehicles passed. Additionally, wearing a bicycle helmet led to traffic getting significantly closer when overtaking. Professional drivers of large vehicles were particularly likely to leave narrow safety margins. Finally, when the (male) experimenter wore a long wig, so that he appeared female from behind, drivers left more space when passing. Overall, the results demonstrate that motorists exhibit behavioural sensitivity to aspects of a bicyclist's appearance during an encounter. In the light of previous research on drivers’ attitudes to bicyclists, we suggest drivers approaching a bicyclist use physical appearance to judge the specific likelihood of the rider behaving predictably and alter their overtaking accordingly. However, the extent to which a bicyclist's moment-to-moment behaviour can be inferred from their appearance is questionable, and so the tendency for drivers to alter their passing proximity based on this appearance probably has implications for accident probability.

    **Keywords: **Bicycles; Pedal cycles; Overtaking; Bicycle helmets; Gender; Naturalistic experiment

  • as corny would say "BANG!"

  • helmets and birds in one go

  • "Wig wearing"
    FTW

  • Ok

    You should have had time to read the above link. I may have overstressed studies but you get the idea.

    Can we now go back on topic to ranting about fixie nodders.

  • Okay.

    if you combine a fixie and a nodder, you get Dancing James.

  • as corny would say "BANG!"

    Hardly buddy.
    The only useful bit, you have to pay to read! it's a study undertaken by one nodder from Bath uni...

    Plus it's 4 years old.

    Prove snothing other than his own experiences during this time, 4 years ago, in a different city.

    It doesn't stand up any scrutiny at all, like your moustache.

  • I think it still stand and it sound pretty reasonable.

    I've ridden with a drunk person once, and he was weaving around the road a bit, very obviously drunk but that make the motorists more worried about coming into a collison with the drunk guys, and end up giving him plenty of space while overtaking.

  • No shit Sherlock, weave all over the road/take up more space and drivers will pass further away.

    The helmet thing I don't reckon has legs any more, not in London.

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