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He repeatedly used Homophobic language over a long period and was called out on it.

Being as you yourself have stated you have no interest in anything other than moderating the Rider Down thread, why are you waving the flag for gay rights?

When I need another "look I'm liberal" in my corner, I'll give you a shout.

Now you're doing Object an injustice. If you knew him just a little, I think you'd understand why he's concerned in the way that he is, and that there's nothing insincere or phony about it. (Not that he really needs me to speak for him.)

I agree with you on the treatment of JSSR, Object doesn't agree, why not let it rest there as he suggested?

Fighting any form if bigotry will likely be a losing battle as people will always like their own tribe more that someone else's.

Fighting bigotry seems to be a battle which is being won on many fronts, but of course there is still plenty to do. Fighting against language evolution is a waste of effort. If you want to keep using 'gay' as simile for homosexual, that's your affair, but it has nothing to do with your grandfather's use of 'gay' to mean happy, or today's use of 'gay' to mean whatever the kids take it to mean, something like 'ill-considered' as far as I can see.

I'm only gay when it rains.

Don't worry, be gay.

Is being tribal gay?

If you mean 'gay' meaning 'ill-considered', then to a large extent, yes.

Don't worry, be gay.

Don't choose, be bi

Reported for insinuating sexuality is a choice.

Has this been resolved yet?

I thought twin studies pointed to genetics and even early nurture being only fairly weakly predictive of sexual preference.

Like a lot of people on here really could afford to narrow down their list of potential partners...

Has this been resolved yet?

I thought twin studies pointed to genetics and even early nurture being only fairly weakly predictive of sexual preference.

Studies failing to predict ≠ choice. You massive homophobe.

and you're calling other people "crass"?
Yes.
you must be trolling
As you've failed to offer a constructive argument to counter what I've written, but rather engage in name calling, I suggest that *you *are the provocateur.

Can you move this to another thread?/ isn;t there one already?
I feel like Velocio made that clear above.

Ironically Velocio would have to move it to another thread.

(but good point)

Sales thread and duplicate:

https://www.lfgss.com/thread122689.html
https://www.lfgss.com/thread122691.html

Now you're doing Object an injustice. If you knew him just a little, I think you'd understand why he's concerned in the way that he is, and that there's nothing insincere or phony about it. (Not that he really needs me to speak for him.)

I agree with you on the treatment of JSSR, Object doesn't agree, why not let it rest there as he suggested?
Obviously I don't know him, any more than the majority of the people on here know each other; so I have to take him "at face value", ie on what he writes.

The reason I chose to "not let it rest there as he suggested", is because I disagree with him, just as sincerely and authenticly as you give him credit for.

I was in a gay mood until I read these posts. Back to requests maybe?

So I can be openly racist provided I pretend I'm dumb and apologise later?
This place is not what it used to be.

Just pretend you're being sarcastic.

At college my art history tutor told me to read up on 'Women and the Gays' for next weeks class. I thought it was well wierd, until I realised it meant this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaze#Women_and_the_gaze

You massive homophobe.

I don't dislike or fear homosexuality (hey, some of the nicest people with whom I've had sex are queer*), I just don't understand either form of monosexuality. Also, outside of a sense of academic enquiry(>>>>>>>>>Science squabbling thread), I don't give a fuck whether people are born and raised homosexual or choose it for themselves.

*as I think I may have mentioned before, I prefer this to 'gay' as it seems more all-encompassing of the whole LGBT smorgasbord, but that's just semantics again.

Sorry to be a pain but does apologising for homophobia make it okay and thus forgivable?

Seems like an easy get out for a whole load of bigotry.

I've always held the line that the forum forgives anything so long as the person who did whatever is going to be forgiven sincerely and genuinely apologises or acknowledges their own action.

At no part in JSSR emailing me and the back and forth about it did I even mention or imply that an apology would do anything at all, and I thought we were going to enter into a game of cat and mouse where I expend little effort splatting his aliases whilst he expends a ton of effort trying to not get caught.

But then, out of nowhere, a sincere apology and acknowledgement he'd acted like a jerk.

I accepted his apology, and said that he should go and remove the homophobic references but in general, welcome back.

It's consistent with what I've done in the past, but sometimes I've had to say "Look, just apologising, acknowledge your actions and don't do it again", and this time I didn't and so I believe it.

A truly repentant person would have edited this post

That I agree with, and considering I asked him to edit I'll give it until tomorrow afternoon to see whether he's dealt with it.

At some basic level I really believe the ability to... rehabilitate I guess... to change ones ways and be a better person tomorrow than we are today. I hold that hope more dearly than I hold the idea that some action yesterday should be punished.

I'll give people chances until they prove beyond doubt they shouldn't have them.

Even when it's stuff that offends me to the core too. Some things trump all others, in this case hope.

Like a lot of people on here really could afford to narrow down their list of potential partners...

Brilliant encapsulation.

Please merge this thread with the regular memes thread... Tanx, fellaz...

I'll give people chances until they prove beyond doubt they shouldn't have them.

My personal opinion is that discussing what is acceptable/offensive/just-sarcasm etc. is a massive fecking waste of time.

So I'd say zero tolerance regarding content, and that^ regarding the poster.

Its not a Perfect solution. Its a simple one. I like simple.