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Yup, email Sportline about this.

The problem is you then need to add a barrel adjuster with the mtb derailleur which adds to the weight.

And the cx1 rear uses a different movement, specifically designed for 1x. The mtb derailleurs with the same movement - x1, xo1 and xx1 all work out as the same price if not more than the cx1.

@kyttyra they are, you just need the knew di2 xtr mtb rear derailleur and some di2 ultegra shifters, get your wallet out ;)

Thats interesting, I would have assumed they wouldn't want to do it. I got those Thorn forks in the end, they're waaaaay nicer

They don't sell it publicly, but can make exception if asked.

@edscoble. Thorn disc fork may be the answer to my setup? Less a-c than disc trucker (383 thorn, 390 disc trucker). Which offset 46mm or 52mm?
@spotter, any pics of your fork?

This fork here looks eerily similar to the CdF fork if you can live without the low rider mounts...
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Vortrieb/Cyclocross-SL-Carbon-Disc-only-Gabel-p34678/

Not to hand, but look at @skinny 's hes got the same forks

Will do. Cheersm

Cheers!!!!!!

46mm is idea, but 52mm is better for a front load.

Is that rake or trail? If rake, what headangle and wheelsize is this figure for?

Maybe you'll find this tool applicable http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

I understand the trig of it, but I'm seeking clarity on what @edscoble is actually recommending, considering the unidentified measurement and lack of context.

Sometimes I struggle as well :)

46mm rake result in a normal handling road bike, 52mm rake make the bike feel slightly more sensitive to the smallest steering input.

The latter make it better to ride with a front load (low rider, porteur rack, etc.).

If you intend to ride with a front load primary, go for the 52mm rake fork, if you intend to ride unladen primary, the 46mm will sufficent.

Ed knew the bike I was talking about, so knew its geometry. He's been 'advising' me on which fork to go for.

Was going to ask that next. Cheers. Always ride with front bag mounted on m18 rack, and also plan a short tour next summer, with panniers. So 52mm it is.

Blackburn outpost is finally in stock in UK.
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/blackburn-blackburn-outpost-front-rack-prod33053/

Question for you functional fiends, has anyone ever run their Croix De Fer on 27.5" wheels?

Been offered a cheap set and thought it might be fun with chunky tyres for winter commuting.

This might be a stupid question, and very happy to be told so.

Rather than buying expensive new forks to change the steering of your bike to allow for front loading, why not just use a shorter stem instead ...?

This of course changes your position on the bike but on a tourer when you're pretty upright this matters less.

Because a shorter stem have little effect on how the bike ride.

Long stem make it feel slower, but doesn't make it so.

Long stem make it feel slower, but doesn't make it so.

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When you're talking about something as subjective as the feel of steering what's the diffence?

I'd have thought the main thing is you're fucking around with your position. Which even if you're touring seems a bit pointless.

I noticed a difference when I switched a 120mm for a 90mm.

An example is high trail CX bike, they're very stable off road and easy to keep in a straight line while getting out of the saddle.

It will still be stable when you swap the stem round, despite the shorter stem that make the steering feel quicker

Put a mid trail fork on and that made the bike feel much more sensitive, and trickier to keep in a straight line off road out of the saddle, even if you put a very long stem (140mm for example)to bring more of your body weight on, the steering will feel slower to turn but it still be sensitive.

But difficult to explain I will admitted.

It's not subjective.

A longer stem means more input is required.

People may buy new forks for other reasons than front loading. To change to disc brakes being one reason. Another being that, there is absolutely nowt better than tinkering with bikes.