Functional bikes. Not Porn not Anti

Salsa Vaya I believe.

EDIT: Yup. http://bikefukr.tumblr.com/post/59534837782/my-weird-vaya-keeps-getting-weirder-650b-grand

How it look OTP;

with 650B now:

campag levers with sram derailleurs? cool!

A mid-range Rene Herse Randonneur

1949 Louis Pitard 650B Randonneur, check out the custom rack/mudguard and front derailleur shifter.

It's the bike where I got the paintjob idea from, except a little low key.

Pics of the full bike?

There's no bottle cage mount because at the time it was the norms to have clamp-on cages.

Derailleur are brazed on, the cable is tensioned both way, so you get a precise shift without any lags at all.

Rear cantilevers are mounted backward for rack clearance.

Meant the Rene but could you just do it normally anyway ;)

I thought I did, here it is;

The Kinesis Decade Tripster seems ideal but Upgrade are sold out. Any suggestion?

Bump. Disc cross bike with clearance for 650 x 38b with mudguards, available at UK distributor (frame only)?

Bump. Disc cross bike with clearance for 650 x 38b with mudguards, available at UK distributor (frame only)?

I'm not certain, but maybe one of: Soma Double Cross Disc? Kafenback? Something from Singular?

Kaffenback springs to mind. A few Genesis models. Surly's new Straggler...

New Kaffenback 2 will definitely take 700 x 32mm tyres + guards. Might work with 650 x 38 - I can check tonight.

Sorry I read that as 32, not 38. Ignore my last post. (They might take them, but I can't say for sure)

Surly Straggler with 650b wheels

I wish that hadn't been posted again.

Must... stop... looking...

That's pretty awesome, BB drop should be fine considering it's still higher than my 650B.

Surly, y no tall headtube?

yes, the headtubes are really tiny.

I'd like to ride on of those Surly Straggler and an identically spec'd Kaffenback back-to-back.

^ perv

That Straggler is pretty nice, but it'll weigh a ton. I actually don't mind the small headtube. I don't really like the unicrown fork on the Genesis Croix de Fer 931, and a carbon one would add a fair bit to my budget. Their Fugio is nice but understandably it has no mudguard mounts as it's a race bike.
The Kaffenback is a no-no as I need to order via a regular distributor to the trade.
I might just fork out for a Ti Kinesis...

That Straggler is pretty nice, but it'll weigh a ton kilo more than a 1k Ti frame.

Not ideal for carrying up slopes but is a bike ever light enough at the end of a race?

At least if should bounce well when dropped. I like it. A lot.

Surly, y no tall headtube?

Ed, y ur arms so short?

The Kaffenback is a no-no as I need to order via a regular distributor to the trade.

Fair enough. For reference though, it will probably just about take 38mm 650B tyres but it'll be tight.

The only problem with guards on the straggler is that is has semi horizontal dropouts. pita to get the rear wheel out no?