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sohi
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^^ Modern panniers (eg Ortlieb) are easy to remove.
Watch this
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Even somd old panniers are just clip, clip and lift. One handed it takes less than 10 seconds.
10 seconds is ages!
and then you've got to carry them, and the clips snag on your clothes, and they are the wrong shape for stuff...it's just hassle hassle hassle all the way. I've tried loads of designs and I always go back to a bag n a bungy. I only take panniers if I have a lot of shopping to get.
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How can you tell it's not one of the edelux lights designed to be used upside down?
Never heard of such a thing. Its not on their product list... http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/lieferprogramm_export_2013.pdf
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Never heard of such a thing. Its not on their product list... http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/lieferprogramm_export_2013.pdf
see here
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/edelux-headlights-for-hanging-attachments/
However, you cannot simply hang your headlight upside-down from the rack. Good lights like the Edelux have optics that project more light down onto the road than upward toward the sky. Turning them upside down inverts the beam pattern: Now you would shine more light into the sky and into the eyes of oncoming traffic than onto the road!Together with Schmidt Maschinenbau, we have developed “upside-down” Edelux for “hanging” attachments. (You have seen prototypes on the photos of our own bikes.) Now there is a production version of the “hanging” Edelux available. We just received our first shipment.
$200 here
http://www.rivbike.com/Schmidt-EDeluxe-Dyno-Headlight-p/ltd-13.htm
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Never heard of such a thing. Its not on their product list... http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/lieferprogramm_export_2013.pdf
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/edelux-headlights-for-hanging-attachments/
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Because they're much more useful for everyday riding, would you ride with two panniers everyday? (unless job required it).
I've rarely ever ridden the Oak without the handlebar bag, not just because a bit of weight improved the handling (it feel overly sensitive without it), but it's always useful to have a bit of space for the usual jacket, puncture repair kit, inner tube etc. and still have enough room for clothes, groceries and the like.
It's kinda like asking why people prefer a saddlebag over two panniers on the rear, it make sense on a day-to-day basis.
Just 'cause I can't leave it...
... for riding in London I would (and do) use a bag. I don't have to ride that far so keeping everything in a bag that's already on my back is more practical.
I do see that bar bags are really useful. They clearly have loads of advantages. But I don't really buy into the whole handling argument. If handling when carrying weight was the main concern you'd go for low-rider ones. People choose bar bags for the other functional options. If you wanted to stack it with weight you'd choose something lower, front or rear.
Obviously it all completely depends on what sort of riding you do.
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I've just (like yesterday!) changed a drop-bar touring frame into a bolt-upright, hub geared bike. The bike is now very rear-heavy. It will be interesting to see whether adding weight back to the front improves the handling.
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My fbnpna is a bit more functional now:
Which is a pleasant surprise as I had thought that the cable for the front canti brake would get fouled by the mounting bracket for the seat.
The downside is I've lost my best reason for a nice new frameset.
I can spend less money on different bars though as the woodchippers aren't quite right for this build, silver lining.
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Not with 2 front fenders they're not.
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