Urgent! Object to the scrapping of the congestion charge extension

I'm still abstaining from this. I don't see how fiddling around with a few square miles, either less or more, is going to make any real tangible impact. I agree that the residents' reduction ought to be much less. But I don't see why residents ought to be chargeable when they're not driving their cars but they are parked on the street. How on earth can you charge people for NOT using their cars? Bonkers.

Because those few square miles are where the majority of people are driving to or through uncle S, how about you only charge the res's when they do drive and are part of the congestion?

Yep! Exactly what I'm driving [sorry] at.

Oh alright I'll fill in the form. I'm going to tell them to extend the zone to the m25 in my 'other comments' bit.

Yep! Exactly what I'm driving [sorry] at.

Oh alright I'll fill in the form. I'm going to tell them to extend the zone to the m25 in my 'other comments' bit.

Exlnt!

Should be at LMNH till 5, see you there?

Sadly not, I'm popping in for the highlights at 7pm but working until then.

They should be two seperate zones with residents of one having to pay full price if they enter the other.

Skully I thought you were only charged for crossing the boundaries, so if your car remains parked (even in the zone) for days, as long as you don't cross a boundary you don't get charged... At least that was the case in the first year, I drove in on Saturday left my car in my works car park and took it home the next weekend without paying.

They should be two seperate zones with residents of one having to pay full price if they enter the other.

Skully I thought you were only charged for crossing the boundaries, so if your car remains parked (even in the zone) for days, as long as you don't cross a boundary you don't get charged... At least that was the case in the first year, I drove in on Saturday left my car in my works car park and took it home the next weekend without paying.

Off road or on road.

Undecided if this is a good or a bad thing......What effects would it have on businesses? This is te point raised by several businesses but often wonder what diffeernces it would have.

Thought that the low emissions zone for commercial vehicles is bonkers for vehicles not used for commercial purposes.

Done.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/congestion-charging-zone-map1.pdf

it's proposed removal of an existing zone, the above shows how lopsided london would be if it was removed, how can westminster and victoria not be in central london!?

from that map it looks like they are removing the most congested and affluent area of london from congestion charge zone. i dont understand what they are doing, but live far enough away to not really give a f**k

They should be two seperate zones with residents of one having to pay full price if they enter the other.

Skully I thought you were only charged for crossing the boundaries, so if your car remains parked (even in the zone) for days, as long as you don't cross a boundary you don't get charged... At least that was the case in the first year, I drove in on Saturday left my car in my works car park and took it home the next weekend without paying.

Lynx has it right. You were parked in a car park - off the street. They scan your reg plate when you pass the boundaries in or out, but they also drive around in vans with cameras on which can scan you and make sure you're registered as paying. If you're a resident, and you park on the street, you'd need to pay the minimal reduced yearly charge or you could, in theory, be charged for not using your car.

from that map it looks like they are removing the most congested and affluent area of london from congestion charge zone. i dont understand what they are doing, but live far enough away to not really give a f**k

But you give a fuck enough to tell us you don't give a fuck.

Done, with the 'split into two zones and charge seperately' suggestion.

Sadly not, I'm popping in for highlights at 7pm but working until then.

Fordham White in Soho do great highlights, and the colourist (Adam) is a forum member... he might give you a discount.

Thought that the low emissions zone for commercial vehicles is bonkers for vehicles not used for commercial purposes.

This is a meaningless sentence. Whay are you trying to say? That people who use massive vans for nefarious purposes other than business shouldn't be made to make their engines burn cleanly?

In my case it was off road... According to this:

Who has to pay it?

Registered owners of any vehicle (except those which are exempt*- see below) which enters, leaves or moves around in the congestion charge zone between 7am and 6pm.

it's only if you drive around, but that comes from the autotrader site not tfl...

done.

Done. Just point out how much revenue they'll miss out on.

Simples

yup yup, maybe they can then fix some pot holes

A few more points people might want to consider if they're minded to object:

I posted this a while ago:
http://www.lfgss.com/post398291.html

--One of the key mistakes of the original WECCZ was to have a single rate for both zones. The outer zone should be £5, the inner zone £10, non-cumulative.

--The WECCZ was undoubtedly intended as only the first segment in an outer ring of congestion charging. (They wouldn't have been able to introduce the whole of an outer ring in one go using the static enforcement camera technology. Mind you, this is purely speculation, but it doesn't make much sense not to have it as part of an outer ring.) If the endeavour to introduce such an outer ring isn't to be damaged, the WECCZ must be kept and other segments introduced.

Excellent points as always Big "O"!

Object, object, object!

I asked them to implement £25 mini zones in each square mile surrounding every London school.

Effectively, I asked for the same thing. M25. But £50.

There's a new dance that is going around;

Called the Bump, do the Bump!

I've put this in a new thread because Vee Vee's thread is from the past and people may not realise that we can have imput now.

Thanks to Cameleon for this:

removal of the congestion charge extension is going ahead. will result in more congestion, more pollution, more CO2, less cycling, less walking - according to tfl..

you can object here, before august 2nd..

Link here:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/congestioncharging/15520.aspx

What if I'm all for it?