Road bike recommendations

I suppose you could if you wanted. How little trail do you want? Cervelo do some of their forks in 53mm offset for rider who like it twitchy.

I suppose you could if you wanted. How little trail do you want? Cervelo do some of their forks in 53mm offset for rider who like it twitchy.

Either there is only one rider who likes it twitchy or mdcc_tester has scobled himself.

He's adopting Ed's dialect, like Schteve McClaren at FC Twente.

low trail? twitchy? what the fuck mdcc?

Either there is only one rider who likes it twitchy or mdcc_tester has scobled himself.

Damon Rinard at Cervelo identifies Carlos Sastre but not anybody else

low trail? twitchy? what the fuck mdcc?

Yes, low trail means quicker steering. To get lower trail for any give head angle, you need more fork offset, i.e. the hub axle more forward of the steering axis.

If you're doubting me, it's only because you are misusing the term 'trail', a common error.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I'll go with whatever Rourke offer as standard on their Audax builds. Having done a quick google of trail / rake etc, I am now at least vaguely versed in the factors that imapct upon steering / handling.

I know this is of virtually no help, but there is another UK frame builder/shop that offers audax frames. I just can't remember for the life of me what they're called. They do a lot of touring bikes I think (not Dawes).

Personally I'd go for the Rourke in 853 with a carbon fork. I just changed the steel 1" to a carbon ahead on my fixeh and the difference is worlds apart. Rourke seem to be at a good price point, and come with a rep. I wouldn't go BJ for most of the reasons you can read about.

On the tubing, as tester said £125 is soon forgotten. If costs are a little tight, there are plenty of other places you can trim money from and easily upgrade later - half decent used wheelset for £80, tektro brakes, second hand seatpost, etc.

Personally I'd go for the Rourke in 853 with a carbon fork. I just changed the steel 1" to a carbon ahead on my fixeh and the difference is worlds apart. Rourke seem to be at a good price point, and come with a rep. I wouldn't go BJ for most of the reasons you can read about.

Rouke appears expensive as the price includes everything. Its actually very well priced indeed.

I did a load of research into audax frames, as a possible replacement to my commuter/everything bike (mainly browsing out of boredom though) . Looked into taiwan builders, US builders etc.

Defo get a carbon fork.

I really want a Rourke 853 frame.. but just have absolutely no need for one :(

I know this is of virtually no help, but there is another UK frame builder/shop that offers audax frames. I just can't remember for the life of me what they're called. They do a lot of touring bikes I think (not Dawes).

Ellis Briggs?

On the tubing, as tester said £125 is soon forgotten. If costs are a little tight, there are plenty of other places you can trim money from and easily upgrade later - half decent used wheelset for £80, tektro brakes, second hand seatpost, etc.

I am not scrimping too much, I had been thinking about a full Athena alloy groupset to give something of a classic look, solid handbuilt wheels (as I am no featherweight) and a pair of the hammered Velo Orange mudguards to finish.

My fixed is an 853 Rourke with carbon fork. It looks pretty beaten up after 2 and a half years of constant use but I love it to bits - it's one of those things you buy and never have thoughts about selling it to buy something 'better'.
I'm pretty excited about having it resprayed at some point next year, then it will look shiny and new again. Not sure whether to send it back to Rourke or just get them to send some decals and get someone more local to do it

I really want a Rourke 853 frame.. but just have absolutely no need for one :(

My excuse is to use it as a everyday bike, with mudguards, and small panniers to carry a little shopping. Once I have a 'proper' winterbike the CX mongrel can be retired (its near death anyway).

Probably not helped by it not making any sense- edit fail on my part.

BSO stands for bike shaped object, and there is a forum member called Object who is an unwilling accountant.

All true.

These last couple of pages have helped no end. I'm going to be buying a new audax frame shortly and was sold on Ti but seeing the prices of the 853 it also looks very tempting.

My excuse is to use it as a everyday bike, with mudguards, and small panniers to carry a little shopping. Once I have a 'proper' winterbike the CX mongrel can be retired (its near death anyway).

I don't really want an audax frame though - want one of the road frames.. but only because they're pretty - so REALLY can't justify it!

These last couple of pages have helped no end. I'm going to be buying a new audax frame shortly and was sold on Ti but seeing the prices of the 853 it also looks very tempting.

This is a nice deal for a Ti Audax.
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b0s21p2573

Apex seems like a good chioce if your likely to put a rack'n'panniers on it too.

I know this is of virtually no help, but there is another UK frame builder/shop that offers audax frames. I just can't remember for the life of me what they're called. They do a lot of touring bikes I think (not Dawes).

Hewitt?
http://www.hewittbikefitting.co.uk/bikes/custom-built/

There are a lot of very happy repeat customers amongst the CTC crowd.

This is a nice deal for a Ti Audax.
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b0s21p2573

^ saved me a post!

This is a nice deal for a Ti Audax.
http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b0s21p2573

Apex seems like a good chioce if your likely to put a rack'n'panniers on it too.

Why buy that why you can get PX's offering with force for the same price?

It's all Apex on that Planet X except the shifters and mechs. Which is odd because the Apex mechs would probably be better for audax riding. The long cage Apex rear mech gives you the gear range of a triple (Force doesn't) when running it with the Apex chainset.

I'm not sure the Planet X can run 28s with guards either.

I've been hmming and ahhing about road bike, proper road bike, and the Pinnacle Evaporite seemed to ticked the box.

tapered headtube, BB30, longer headtube (i.e. no need to have a lots of spacer), comfortable geo, full carbon fork etc.

I'd like to know what the forum's though on it ignoring the name obviously, AFAIK, Pinnacle brought the right to those mould rather than it being designed in-house;

^ I like how it being open mould is a plus point to you.

I think it has a tripple

it doesn't, all compact 50-34 with 11-25t, sound like an idea gearing.

Will replaced the crankset with Ultegra ASAP if I go for it.