Cycling Fitness / Training Advice

The stronger guys from my club are doing low cadence sessions as part of their winter turbo training.

Proper low. 50rpm low.

I think the idea is to build leg strength. Seems a bit extreme.

I'm doing variations more like yours. I need to work on cadence, and hopefully the seated low stuff will help me stay seated longer when climing. Mostly I just get bored.

It's not going to build any strength. Think about it logically.

You will get used to producing power at a higher torque. Which there are benefits too. I do think there are benefits to low cadence work. But not specifically in directly producing more power.

Its a specific training theory.

I havent looked into it though. Just doesnt seem like something Id benefit from. At least it sounds like a rubbish benefit:fatigue ratio.

It's the modern version of riding fixed in the winter (to save on expensive geared stuff wearing out in shit weather).

But without having to buy a fixed wheel bike.

Sounds like bollocks

Froome's data (and all pros power data to be fair) totally blows my mind. I don't understand how 'normal' people can be that ridiculously good?
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/chris-froome-described-as-close-to-human-peak-after-physiological-data-release-202644?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

I thought i was held by all as being close to the human peak?

I thought i was held by all as being close to the human peak?

'Faster' by Dr Hutch is worth a read.

I've heard that's a great read. Might have to get it.

I had my V02max tested at Loughborough a couple of years ago as a present from the wife, I was very "normal" sadly with a score of 56. Luckily with other tests such as lactate threshold they established I wasn't at my ceiling yet with plenty of room for improvement. I just have to train harder, bugger!

Froome's reading of 86 is impressive but expected I suppose.

I can't push big gears really. It starts to hurt my knees any lower than about 60rpm. I'm happy spinning. My TT's tend to run at an average of between 100-105rpm.

I too am trying to lift my cadence though as you need lots of leg speed on the track.

Christ, did just over an hour on turbo earlier with some longish intervals at about 3% over ftp included and I've been revenous ever since. As soon as I've eaten I want more. It's getting annoying now!

Didn't rest properly (in fact same TSS as previous 3 weeks) after 3 week block and now barely able to maintain Z2 power at the end of the first week of the new block. Presume best to take a rest week now and reset?

I feel like doing low cadence stuff helps my core and the bottom of my back as long as I don't overdo it.

Anybody know a Trainerroad workout which is particularly good for low cadence? I suppose I can just do my existing go-to workouts at 70-5rpm rather than the standard 90-05.

Going to try some of those Nathan Haas workouts in the gym now. I would like to have legs that look like that. Not so keen on his hair or weasely face though.

Wonder if that SI move would help with my fucked up left hip issue.. or more importantly with the ladies.. ?

Anyone else suffer with post training munchies?
I really struggle sometimes, probably why I'm 82kg!!
I have skimmed milk after a session, usually early morning before work so always fasted.

Yes. It's worse after fasted sessions, which I do sometimes. I think it's normally a sign you've not had a big enough recovery meal, which isn't always easy with breakfast. Less opportunity for loads of nutrient rich veg etc

I'm completely lost re training. I've had about three years of constant improvement where I just followed what everyone around me did. Hit last year in February strongest ever and stronger than clubmates who had trounced me before. Then I realised it was cos I may have just worked too mcuh too soon. By May, work hit hard and all my training went out the window along with diet, so bombed out.

This year I got Friel's book and I can barely understand half of what he's saying. No base training done so far, then I'm told I can do intervals or just tough sessions as base training (or something), figure I may as well buy a HR monitor and just settle on what races I do actually want to peak for. If I had the money I'd just pay someone to tell me what to do, so much easier.

Decent coach helps for sure.

Agree, past years' improvements was due exactly to that. But he no longer has time to work with me. At least the Friel book will help me put a better plan to things.

I sometimes wonder why we make our hobbies so competitive

Then just cipy what you did last year. Just do a bit more.
Simple s.

This. @Murakami If you already have training diaries from previous years then just go according to them. If you start now, you will peak later than you did last year too.

Yeah, my coach has me doing these at the moment for 1 min at 50-60rpm. It's not really to build strength - it's pretty much designed to aid high torque seated accelerations on large gears (sprinting, basically). I guess it would have benefits any racing where you need to do seated accelerations...

The efforts are pretty unpleasant at the time, but don't leave me in a mess the next day - unlike high load sessions at the gym.

Tl;dr: If you want to build strength - get in the gym.

I never thought of it this way. My "diary" is scant on details, but the general plan is there. Thanks @skinny @dan

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