Time travel thread, Hey ho let's go!

you're just blinkered Mashers - there's more than one flavour you cunt

does the hole in a Hula Hoop taste of anything?

I just had some frazzles but unfortunately I laughed at Tynan's fury while digesting and some simi digested frazzles are stuck in my nassal cavity.
I've bloen my nose twice now and frazzle has come out:-(

Ha Ha. I'm mostly just using this as an excuse to spout ideas and explanations that i enjoy explaining (because i get a kick from putting together an explanation that makes sense, and an even bigger kick when an explanation doesn't work and so i can improve my understanding by fixing it).

I have a lot of time for cranks and their weird ideas as you can learn a lot working out where they are going wrong (if they are wrong) or gain an interesting new perspective on things if they've found a consistent alternative view of things, or often a mix of both. I think Wingedangel has probably picked up a lot of ideas in that class, but from my perspective doesn't seem very good a bringing out what's cool about them. What i have little time for is people claiming that phenomena well explained by conventional theories can't be so explained, but instead we need their pet theory which fails to adequately explain the phenomena.

I'd met ion wind craft before, and agree they are cool and interesting, but even most of the people who play around with them don't claim they have anything to do with cancelling out gravity.

How dare you call me a cunt.

I am going to report you for this . . . and all from THE BIG MAN - MOTH.

moth do you know what the words R S E REACH speal . . .. i will give you a clue 'research' - you probably habe neber heard of that, becuase you don't want to get your pretty little hands dirty.

well listen up, you are about to eat a face full of humble pie;

Google 'YouTube"

unless that is you DONT WAHT TO KNOW.

. . . the references in astronomy and astrology...

Fucking idiot.

It's amazing over on the other thread as well. WA just claimed that the second law of thermodynamics is also incorrect.

You heard it here first.

I'm sure she'll post up evidence of it being violated in a closed system any minute now. Oh yeah, real soon. Shouldn't be long.

what is to fear but fear itself?

Yeah moth, you freaking idiot.

no...not really, what your talking about is like precessional drift, in relation to the earths spin at it's poles...the horizone we look at 'goes backwards' thus giving the references in astronomy and astrology...thats what happens with the 'creep'...
what I mean is that when you hold a power drill and boost the switch ie turn it on...at some points the momentum of the accelerating commutator within the drill seems to counter the weigh of the drill...ie the drill feels lighter...I don't think it feels lighter because it's tricking your brain into 'thinking' it is...I think it's because (as you say...the inertial effect in one direction...ie clockwise...actually helps to lift the drill in a counter clockwise direction, which would be perfectly feasible...)
I'm not saying thats magic...what I am saying is...that in a 'commercial' application...harldy anything has been done to research that...

Just like research into anything that is considered a 'conspiracy' is very very small..

there is a typical knee jerk reaction to anyone screaming conspiracy, when there is nothing of the sort.

the work of Schauberger was deemed 'dangerous' enough to have had a 100 years restraining order put on it...if it was such guff...along with the works of Tesla, why not let all us idiots continue to play...~?

If there is no harm in playing .,..and we wouldn't find the answer to perpetual motion..

what is to fear but fear itself?

So, if I follow your reasoning, we should expect that FIFA and UEFA and all manner of other former fascist groups from around Europe, Asia and South America, are somehow involved in all of this [see my conspiracy theories enunciated with alarming clarity on the Football Thread]

It's amazing over on the other thread as well. WA just claimed that the second law of thermodynamics is also incorrect.

You heard it here first.

I'm sure she'll post up evidence of it being violated in a closed system any minute now. Oh yeah, real soon. Shouldn't be long.

What law is correct?

no...not really, what your talking about is like precessional drift, in relation to the earths spin at it's poles...the horizone we look at 'goes backwards' thus giving the references in astronomy and astrology...thats what happens with the 'creep'...

what I mean is that when you hold a power drill and boost the switch ie turn it on...at some points the momentum of the accelerating commutator within the drill seems to counter the weigh of the drill...ie the drill feels lighter...I don't think it feels lighter because it's tricking your brain into 'thinking' it is...I think it's because (as you say...the inertial effect in one direction...ie clockwise...actually helps to lift the drill in a counter clockwise direction, which would be perfectly feasible...)
I'm not saying thats magic...what I am saying is...that in a 'commercial' application...harldy anything has been done to research that...

If you are talking about holding the drill so that your hand is off to one side of the drill's centre of mass, then as well as supplying a force to oppose the drill's weight to keep it up, you have to supply a twist to stop the drill rotating in your hand until it dangles below your hand. You do that by having one part of you hand push down on the drill and another part push up. The part that is pushing up to supply the twist is probably the same part that is pushing up to support the weight of the drill.

When you switch the drill on (or off) you have to supply another twist to stop the body of the drill rotating the opposite (or same) way as the bit. Depending on which way your hand is off centre, and whether you are turning the drill on or off, that twist can add to or subtract from the twist needed to resist the off-centre grip. If it subtracts, then suddenly the bit of your hand that was supplying the up force only needs to supply enough to resist the weight, and so the drill feels suddenly lighter.

Does that work for you?

Seriously, does anyone on here have a fucking clue what those words, in that order might mean?

Increawingly, the only things that make sense are the ellipses that are so abundantly littered in your posts,

God I hope this isn't a deliberate troll. If it is, hats off to you. If it's not, please seek help. You are exhibiting some mildy worring delusional behaviour.

mashton wake up, you need to get your head out of the western scientific hegemony, calling WingededAngel a cunt does not further you argument forward it jas make you look like you am scared of thinkers . . . . yes mashtin that is what thinkers do, they think.

grew up and DO SAM RESEYRCH

Google "YouTube"

its there id you wan it.

I just had some frazzles but unfortunately I laughed at Tynan's fury while digesting and some simi digested frazzles are stuck in my nassal cavity.
I've bloen my nose twice now and frazzle has come out:-(

can I have it ?

It's amazing over on the other thread as well. WA just claimed that the second law of thermodynamics is also incorrect.

You heard it here first.

I'm sure she'll post up evidence of it being violated in a closed system any minute now. Oh yeah, real soon. Shouldn't be long.

Google: "Youtube"

unlers you are SCARED

Do you really want it? Or have you just been brainwashed to want it?

no...not really, what your talking about is like precessional drift, in relation to the earths spin at it's poles...the horizone we look at 'goes backwards' thus giving the references in astronomy and astrology...thats what happens with the 'creep'...

Seriously, does anyone on here have a fucking clue what those words, in that order might mean?

I think some of it's a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession_(astronomy)
which is actually an example of what i was talking about! Not exactly clear on the 'goes backwards'. Am happily ignorant of astrology, though it seems plausible that they borrow ideas from astronomy when is suits them. And 'creep' to me is a particular class of material deformation which i can't relate to this discussion.

What law is correct?

Clive, I thought you were the law.

So the earth is vibrating in the key of A? Someone help me out here?

I'm pretty sure it's in B♭

Do you really want it? Or have you just been brainwashed to want it?

how dare you call me a cunt, yes furious tiles DARE (spell it you self) that is what is thinkers do, dare to think.

Google: "hotmail"

unless you want to kheep sucking th corporate cock and balls and are tow scared to open the windows of perseption

Half of the vitriol that's being spewed here over the last two days could have come from the WTF Cylcling product thread.

how dare you call me a cunt, yes furious tiles DARE (spell it you self) that is what is thinkers do, dare to think.

Google: "hotmail"

unless you want to kheep sucking th corporate cock and balls and are tow scared to open the windows of perseption

You are Jim Morrison AICMFP.

the Windows, great band.

Half of the vitriol that's being spewed here over the last two days could have come from the WTF Cylcling product thread.

I haz bottled tree sex wee, $50.

Tynan buys his Vial Of Vitriol from me - is da good stuff, no messin

Want.. Need.. Sell.. Me.. Pleasings

Yeah !

That's told you moth you idiot.

it wasn't moth that said it, it was someone else.

You mean like the situation where you hold a rapidly spinning bike wheel by one end of it's horizontal axle, and instead of the axle rotating down so it's vertical,** the axle precesses slowly around yet remains horizontal?**

thats what I was referring to when I said creep...

and Yes. the second law of thermodynamics is wrong...you did here it here first, if you did, then I suggest you put down the 'comic' and read something else.