Rear wheel sideways "play"

Yeah I've got the Finish Line Wet Lube as well now, it obviously lasts better in the rain but it picks up dirt like crazy. I use whichever one suits my mood...

As an aside I experienced the sideways play issue on a Phil rear hub recently, which caused me some confusion as these hubs don't have the normal cup / cone setup. Spoke to broken_777 whom I had purchased the hub from and he had this excellent advice to offer:

this is a sympton of not having BOTH lockrings on the hub tight.....the machining on the hub is so precise that when the lockrings are tight the preload on the bearings is 100 accurate...whereas on everyother hub when the lockrings are tight the shell compresses the bearings too much which leads to premature wear....

I tightened the second lockring up and the problem went away. Even Phil Wood didn't seem to know this as they never got back to me on this question...

hmm, precise stuff this.

regarding the picking up dirt and dust with wet lube. i read somewhere about this bike mechanic for one of the tdf riders, he uses first wet lube then after a good wipe down of surface oil a thin layer of grease to 'keep the oil in'. well i thought this guy has seen more chain wear than me, fixed more bikes and all that, i will at least try it and see myself.

it seems after rubbing a good squirt of grease in my hands and then onto my chain after oiling it up and whiping off the excess grease, the chain stayed cleanish for longer but does mug up eventually.

if and how much better this 'keeps the oil in' - i don't know, but i seems to produce much less of these little black oil spray droplets around/near my rear sprocket and on the hub flange. i prob do it again.

@exedani: don't mix match them lubes up as they are not meant to work together. interchange them onto a dray chain for optimal lubrication. same advice stands for different type greases afaik.

@reeen: You post a method whereby you apply wet lube then grease to the chain, and then in the same post make a recommendation to not mix lubes on the chain?

yes i know. how weird is that!