Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

I've bought some really nice campagnola wheels off the forum, but the cones on the rear wheel need replacing now. I can't find any markings on either hub other than the campag logo, and took it to my LBS and they couldn't tell me either.
I asked Pitosski who sold them to me and he seems to think their chorus, but i want to confirm before buying anything. I've taken some photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/79728347@N06/7980569303/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79728347@N06/7980570497/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79728347@N06/7980571516/

the markings under the freewheel read: = B1,375 x 24 - ISO
The axel is a bit scratched but seems to say, Brev int campagnola
the hub is 87mm wide.
any help would be great

cheers
R

I bought this bike in France, most of the part are campagnolo except for the seat which is concor and the Handle bars and stem which are cinelli. The gears are gear leavers are shimano. could anyone help me to identify the frame. I also wondered how much I could maybe get for this beauty?? Thanks
also if anyone interested just inbox me because i may be selling it.

Here is a link to the photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87195108@N03/

can any body help ???

Impatient, aren't we? It's a Sunday after all...
Take a pic of the BB shell, that might give us some clues...
I think you're gonna be out of luck tho'...

I'm no expert but the mixed group suggests its not original. Obviously resprayed at some point. Compact geometry so was built for racing.

Lugs don't look fancy but clean lines suggest reasonable quality. Weight of bike/frame would help grade it. If its about 10kg or less as pictured then you have something quite nice.

Also look for frame serial ID stamped on bottom bracket and see if you can see the brand on the drop outs. Usually respray masks these details so might have to peel paint if you really want know.

Big French brands obviously Peugeot and Motobecane, both made top end bikes but also lots of middle ground and leisure bikes.

Horizontal drops suggest pre 1990's. Also figure out what diameter the seatpost is, if 27.2mm you could be on to a winner.

Overall value to me on what I can see in the picture IF it was a quality tubeset would be up to about £200 tops.

Rims suggest 1960-70's http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=58ffa5fb-062d-4491-bbe2-34b57d8b9a3b

ok thanks a lot mate, i will take some pictures of the bb.

If those ad the original rims then it was once a serious racer. Also unlikely someone would have maintained and updated a bike like this unless it was decent. You just need to find the clues and hit google :)

it weights 10 kg, the bottom bracket is called "brew inter campagnolo 35x1". it has no markings on the underside of the bike

What about the drop outs? Where the wheels go in?

it also has tubeless tyres

must be a falcon eddy merckx

I second StreetE hint. I can see something stamped on the rear right dropout-right above the rear derailleur .

the drop out says simplex

Makes me tend more to believe it is a French bike.
Look at this: http://sheldonbrown.com/kunich.html

Aye, agree with mammar. Looks a bit too good to be a falcon, clean lines, clean if simple lugs, sloped fork crown and no lamp boss etc suggest it was once a serious, pure racing bike.

My valuation still stands though, without definite heritage or original group £200 tops. Probably better off splitting. Frame weight alone and seat post diameter should help narrow down what tube set was used.

Nice find either way

got it for 10 euros in a french car boot

Bargain!

Scroll down to where Sheldon speaks about "Derailer hangers"
http://sheldonbrown.com/velos.html

Definitely french - 35x1 is a french BB thread, Simplex are a french company and their dropouts were not very common outside of france.
Would be interesting to see if the fork threads are also french (22.0 not 25.4mm).

The best clues on the age of the frame are the presence of bottle bosses on the downtube and braze-on cable mounts on the TT, and shifter mounts on the downtube. Bottle bosses emerged in the mid to late 70's, ditto downtube shifters. The French were early adopters of such innovation.
do a flickr search for french bikes like Follis, Motobecane, Mercier, Gitane etc and see if you can find any lug matches - those look a bit like prugnat....

how much could it be worth ??

If you're looking for max. Profit I think you're best off stripping the frame and selling off the individual parts. To make the most from the frame you'd really need to know what it is. The guys on classic rendezvous may be able to help - Americans tend to be more into French bikes than we are.
Whatever you do I think you'll make a tidy profit

thanks mate

I bought this bike in France, most of the part are campagnolo except for the seat which is concor and the Handle bars and stem which are cinelli. The gears are gear leavers are shimano. could anyone help me to identify the frame. I also wondered how much I could maybe get for this beauty?? Thanks
also if anyone interested just inbox me because i may be selling it.

Here is a link to the photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87195108@N03/

Not quite the same but not too disimilar to this.

The lugwork is different and this has campag. dropouts.

I can't see details too well on my phone but...
First off its definitely French you can pretty much tell at a glance from the scalloped stay and fork ends, but Simplex ends and French thread BB confirm it.
I'd guess the super record chainset Etc. is original, this will have a date code from which you can guess the frames age.
The seatpost diameter is not an indication of quality for French bikes (or older Italian or Japanese) as they're most often built with
metric sized tubing and common sizes for the best French frames are 25- 26.8 mm ( some frames are built in imperial sized Reynolds tubing but they're uncommon.
Bottle cage bosses are a good indicator of a post 70s frame but shifter bosses have been brazed on since shifters existed although they dropped out of fashion in the 60s.

Looks like a really nice bike, shame you're not going to ride it but if you're interested in maximising your profit part it out. I'll take the bottom bracket and chainset.