Possible dodgy frame dilema

Speaking of battered sausage

I once knew a guy who loved a bit of Charlie

he had to knock it on the head when his weekly routine would be to go out Friday and Saturday and to check into a hotel room and finish off his supplies whilst watching porn.

He stopped when two consecutive Monday mornings he woke up in the hotel chair, discarded wraps around him, empty bottles nearby and his pants and trousers round his ankles. It was however realising that he had beaten his meat until it bled whilst in his exaggerated state that was the motivation to stop.

Ha! Excellent!

Did savlon on your cock help it heal, mate?

That looks like a deep fried cross between 'two girls one cup' and a cum shot.
Grim.

Yep, nasty.

puts Smallfurry on ignore

Its hard to get your hands on good cock nowadays.

sorry, coke...

sorry, coke...

have some rep!

battered sphincter

Speaking of battered sausage

It was however realising that he had beaten his meat until it bled whilst in his exaggerated state that was the motivation to stop.

Nothing like a torn frenium to put you off bashing the bishop for a while.....

On reflection .... a quality thread.... we've...

1 - solved a readers dilema
2 - let off a little steam and cleared the air
3 - found a few ideas for dinner
4 - issued a health warning about what not to do after dinner....

and

5 - hence all's right with the world.

Result.

i am now waiting for some fixie whinger to threaten to flounce because they know someone who once tried drugs and we are mocking a serious problem

So if I am sarchastic I get attacked

if I am rude I get attacked

if I say he right thing I get attacked

fucking hell

how can I get it right here?

James my last note on this because it's the fucking Internet and I've got better travelling things to do.
A: stop being so self absorbed, people pointing out that some of your parody threads and attempts at foul mouthed sweary posts weren't funny doesn't consitute being ATTACKED!
B: if your ego and character are so fragile that someone pointing out to you, you were being an attention whore distresses you so much maybe you need to take your own advice and htfu.
C: you're no fucking martyr and you bought it on yourself, only you can moderate your posts and your interraction with this here forum, so man up and do that rather than flouncing about saying whatever I do I can't please you all.
No one wants you to please everyone they just want you to find a happy medium of interraction with the forum, which you seem incapable of finding for yourself.
Now get over yourself and step away from the keyboard, rather than digging and digging.

That is all....

corny

utter sanctimonius fucking sense of humour fail

do you not realise when i am taking the piss

perhaps you need a holiday to recover your ability to laugh and smile

tootlepip

dj

"and then I go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like I love you"

you guys are adorable

Another way of tackling this problem might be to ‘encourage’ that….

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All frames & bikes offered for sale through LFGSS to state the frame number, alongside a photograph of said frame number, in any advertisement. If there is no frame number this should be clearly stated, and an explanation given.

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If we are as a community to start taking a real stand against bike crime – instead of just moaning about it - there can be no clearer way of proving the provenance of the bikes traded through the site.

It would also build up a history of oft traded bikes/frames that would help if/when they get nicked. It would go on to build, by default, a searchable database for frame numbers, via external search engine of the sort of bikes we as a forum like.

It would be good for the forum, attracting more legitimate buyers, and sellers – and be a clear stand against the policy of other sites.

Yes it would be a small bit of extra agro for sellers – but if the policy attracts more legitimate trade so much the better.

And for those thinking of importing, or buying a bike unseen, will give extra piece of mind.

There will be those that argue that as everyone on here has an ‘identity’ to post then that helps to legitimise the trades… we as a forum could always go one stage further…

Yours controversially running something up the flagpole….

Bagheera

Bagheera
This is a good idea, but I cant see how we make it mandatory unless someone is policing the classifieds - though to a certain extent this happens already.

Maybe PM Velocio and some of the regular vendors to get their opinion too.

i am now waiting for some fixie whinger to threaten to flounce

I love you James, by the way

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/shut-the-fuck-up-take-a-hint-punk.jpg

Another way of tackling this problem might be to ‘encourage’ that….

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All frames & bikes offered for sale through LFGSS to state the frame number, alongside a photograph of said frame number, in any advertisement. If there is no frame number this should be clearly stated, and an explanation given.

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Is this really that big an issue? It seems like a very happy and inconvenient policy to enact for a problem that largely doesn't exist on this forum. Nothing I can do will remove risk from purchasing a frame (or even make a real reduction in that risk), and in the case of the first post on this thread I would say that a 50's or 60's frame with disk brake fittings is more of an alarm than the lack of a serial on the bottom bracket.

There are many reasonable explanations for why there isn't a serial... perhaps they had the frame repaired and the BB replaced? Perhaps they had the post code police stamped, moved house and then grinded off the old details (and serial whilst they were at it)? Perhaps it's a custom build? Who knows.

Before enacting policies that will impact so many sellers I would want to know that we have a real issue at hand. I'm just unconvinced. The level of complaints around classifieds is fewer than one a month. So for 10 issues a year you want to change the process for hundreds or thousands of adverts? Even though none of the 10 issues per year that I'm encountering relate in any way to stolen goods. (Nearly all are about sellers not providing good communication or posting items swiftly... very rarely it's something sold that doesn't quite match the description.)

So I just do not see an issue here, and unless you can all convince me otherwise I'm not inclined to change anything on here.

Oven baked heaven.

Willy Pie!

If it's 60 years old the it was probably stolen from ze Germans. I wouldn't worry.

Indeed. It was probably one of those WWII filed-off-serial-number bikes which were dropped all over England along with forged ration books and fake bank notes, as part of a psychological-warfare instability campaign. The idea was that good, law-abiding citizens would try to hand these bikes into the Police and, as nobody would claim them (having been dropped by those specially modified German bombers), the bike would then come into their possession. The bike would then be put to good use (as bikes were actually rationed during the war) and so would prove useful to the new owner. But knowing that the serial number had been filed off, the realisation that they could be handling stolen goods would slowly eat into the subconcious, keeping the owner awake at night night and making them wonder whether they might actually be a bad person for owning this bike.

And thus, were the Germans hoping to insidiously eat away at the moral righteousness held in the British collective psyche. Through this campaign of filed off serial number bikes, the aim was to make the British people slowly believe that they were a nation of bicyle thieves and in doing so, destroy the country's will to continue to resist. A legacy which we live with still today and which became the root of the current bike theft problems.

You must destroy this evil frame immediately. And when you do so, look for the tell-tale brazed on swastika on the inside of one of the tubes. That's the only way to be sure it's not one of those bikes. You need to saw it into little pieces and inspect the inside of each section. If you don't, simply by owning this frame, you are actually nazi collaborator. As my old grandad used to say, "'Angin's too good fer the likes of you..."

I also doubt that the sale of stolen bikes on here is a 'big' problem on here, however as I'm sure every cyclist would acknowledge there is a real issue outside this forum around bike thefts, and the subsequent sale of stolen bikes on the internet.

Complaints of course only coming from those unhappy; and as with most trades most unhappiness relates to the final transaction price when the true worth of the goods is known, rather than the goods themselves.

As per my earlier post this would be one way for the Forum to lead on bike crime, demonstrating 'best practice'.... so at best it would grow the interest in the For Sale area through legitimate interests AND would shame other online sales sites to take bike theft seriously.

At worst it would mean a little extra work for sellers; one more picture uploaded.

I'm sure like you Sir, I would be very interested in others comments and views.

Bests,

Bagheera

Two of my bikes were ex-thefts...

They were stolen, then dumped.

I found them and handed them into the Police.

Nobody claimed them.

They then quite legally became my property.

At some point in the past, they had indeed been stolen, but I wasn't ever "handling stolen goods". Neither have I had any Sleepless in Seattle nights over it. Unfortunately, without the assistance of Mystic Meg, it is sometimes not possible to reunite previous owners with their stolen property.

I've also had bikes where the BB shell has been bashed against something and the paint's been chipped, the BB shell enjoys it's fair share of shit sprayed up off the road, rust gets in and the S/N rusts off. When you clean off all the rust and repaint, there's no S/N anymore. It's a sixty yr old steel bike. Rust happens. I'd be more shocked if I could still see the S/N - where had the bike been all those years, in a barn?

Seriously, you're just finding shit to worry about. This should tell you one of two things: that either you have no real problems in your life (be grateful and get on with your rebuild project); or, you're fussing about nothing as a way of avoiding something else (either you have massive problems in your life, or you're just finding an excuse to avoid starting your rebuild project).

Tea Bee

I thought you were a bit of a fool from our previous interactions when you stalked me. I apologise and stand corrected. Your post about the Germans was great.

I think the OP was trying to demonstrate to the world that he had a moral conscience, but then wanted to be absolved of his guilt.

The best option is as you and I have advocated to hand in to the police and then get them back in a few months time when not collected.

Why the fuck this turned into another lfgss shitstorm in a bottle of piss is quite beyond me.

Why the fuck this turned into another lfgss shitstorm in a bottle of piss is quite beyond me.

ummmm!

Lol

DJ, the police only hold bikes for 28 days these days.

But if there's no serial number and the bike might have been stolen sometime in the last fifty years, is there really any point?

I wouldn't personally lose any sleep about a bike that might have been stolen years ago. But that's just me. If the OP is worried, do what you need to via the rozzers, then the frame will be completely legally yours, even if it was once stolen.

BTW, if you pick a nick with no bike lockup (like Watford, for example) then they'll ask you to hold onto the frame for them. So you can actually be measuring for what you need and buying the bits during the 28 days you're holding the bike for the police, before you get the bit of paperwork that says it's yours forever. Once that's happened, even if the original owner does appear, the bike is still yours - they missed their window of opportunity and they can't take it back - just in case you were worried.