Doping

Sly Stallone or female Chinese swimmer?

or just a tight swimming costume ?

If it was holding the rest of her body in that would officially be a corset not a swim costume

Hey Andy how's it going mate? Long time no see. Will have a read of this. Cheers

Nice one mate. I've just bought a proper road bike so going to try and rejoin the proper forum a bit more now. Looking forward to taking it for a spin on the weekend.

I love that fact that because she beat the mens times, she must be dopping !
It's gonna happen at some point. She's young, flexible, light and fast, she causes less drag than any of the men. See how she does in another 8 years.

She didn't beat the mens time. She was faster over the last 100m.

Looks like a normal swimmers build to me.

She didn't beat the mens time. She was faster over the last 100m.

Yes i know.

This is an amazing first hand account of doping from a casual cyclist.
http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html?page=all

Thanks for the link Andy, thats a really interesting read

She is a mermaid.

Yangtze river dolphin hybrid, apparently
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/07/30/china-denies-olympic-pool-success-down-to-human-dolphin-hybrids/

No probs Tom. Tempted much?? I know I was.

The sad reality of the situation, if she has been given performance enhancers, is that if she is found to have been doped, she will be the one who is sanctioned by sports governing bodies not the coachws and trainers who are perpetuating the doping. She'll get dumped and they'll just move onto the next rising talent who will no doubt be too young to fully understand the use of performance enhancers. This will continue until entire sports programmes are sanctioned not just athletes.
Amazing all the disbelief from her supporters considering the history of Chinese doping especially in women's swimming.

This will continue until entire sports programmes are sanctioned not just athletes.

The famous USADA case wraps up directeurs sportifs, team doctors etc. into one big conspiracy charge. Perhaps all adverse analytical findings in athletes need to be pursued in the same way.

its probably a state funded and run sports/doping programme like in east germany etc. nobody is going to be
prosecuted for that in china.

Prosecuted, no. Investigated by WADA, maybe.

they all look the same :-)

Vaughter's tweets this evening are worth reading.

Sports organisations that persistently flaunt performance enhancer rules should be excluded from international competitions. Obviously international sporting success is important to many countries, like China, with all the money that they have been sinking into the sports programmes. If they aren't allowed to compete with sporting directors who will not clean up the programme, there will be pressure to find directors, coaches, trainers, doctors, etc who will.

This is an interesting read, although it glosses over the EPO positive of another 16 year old Chinese swimmer, earlier this year;

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OLY_JOHN_LEICESTER_300712?SITE=ARSPR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

No probs Tom. Tempted much?? I know I was.

Its funny, Ive heard alot about HGH from the other half (he's a doctor and has always sung the praises of HGH) but it never occured to me it could be used in a sporting performance context.

As for the other stuff the only reason I would ever be tempted would be for the exact same reason as the writer of that article, curiosity/exploration.

This is an interesting read, although it glosses over the EPO positive of another 16 year old Chinese swimmer, earlier this year;

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OLY_JOHN_LEICESTER_300712?SITE=ARSPR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Long story short, they have learnt to let their hair down but they are not fat like Aussies.

Riiiight.

but they now know how to BBQ.

"I have been around swimming for four-and-a-half decades now. If you have been around swimming you know when something has been done that just isn't right. I have heard commentators saying 'well she is 16, and at that age amazing things happen'. Well yes, but not that amazing. I am sorry."
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/london-2012-day-3-thoughts.html

and a 'counter':
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/08/london-day-5-tall-and-talented.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FcJKs+%28The+Science+of+Sport%29

Olympics - Doping
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/08/science-of-olympics-part-2-doping.html

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/celebrity/article/-/14430759/olympic-drug-use-accusations

I make a special guest appearance in this one at 2:15

...or dodge the piss test by using someone else's wee.

I read a report from a doping tester who said that one team he tested (I think it was a German women's team for some athletic thing, 400m maybe, can't remember now) all had the same piss in them - from the same person. Everyone has a different spread of salts and other by-products in their urine, and yet this entire team had EXACTLY the same profile to theirs - which isn't possible, even if they all ate and drank precisely the same stuff.

The only explanation was that they were cathererising to get all their own urine out and refilling their bladders with somebody else's clean urine. They hadn't even bothered to use several different piss donors for the sake of subtlety. Unfortunately, even though it was clear that that was what they had done, it wasn't within whatever anti-doping rules were in place at the time for that sport to actually DO anything about it - their piss all tested clean for banned sunstances and so they were allowed to carry on. Shameful.

so, wait-they shoved someone elses piss up themselves, then re-pissed it?

It's a dark world we live in if so.

Meta-piss.

FML.