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• #6202
rep
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• #6203
The irony of this story is it adds fuel to fire of Sky mass-doping without any definitive connection to a PED of any kind. He was even shopped to the team by another rider. 'Cover up' is a fucking stretch but it fits the media's narrative.
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• #6204
He even named that rider on Radio 5, it was Ian Boswell.
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• #6205
Not if you're a rat
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12378044/Oh, it might kill you sooner if you're human too:
http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v19/n5/full/nm.3145.html -
• #6207
Team Swift(ly looking like US Postal)
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• #6208
Twat because he was stupid to take a friend's medication without checking the ingredients or double checking for banned substances, or twat because you dispute UKAD's acceptance that "he had not acted intentionally"?
I know nothing about the story other than what is written in the report but taking the report at face value suggests that he was (correctly) handed a 2 year ban for a stupid but unintentional use of medication that was unrelated to sport performance.
That said, as I understand it, he's not the first rider from team swift...
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• #6209
You don't just get prednisone off a mate for an ulcer. Prednisone is a very strong anti inflammatory steroid. And I'm not sure what it's medical qualification for an ulcer is. It does not just come in any old medication, it's prescription only. My doctor friend is busy or I'd ask him.
You go to the doctor and get the proper perspiration for medication.
Either he's a stupid as he claim, or he was trying to cheat. Either way, he's an idiot. UKAD say he didn't act intentionally becasue they cannot prove the contra.
It's such a pathetic excuse, it's so see through.
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• #6210
I'd refer anyone to here; http://www.globaldro.com/home/index
Anything that goes in your mouth, check it on there.
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• #6211
My doctor friend is busy
Dr Ferrari, yeah? :P
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• #6212
It's such a pathetic excuse, it's so see through.
Definitely a horseshit story.
"Hold mybeerEPO while I neck a load of my mate's drugs..." -
• #6213
You go to the doctor and get the proper perspiration for medication.
What if it sweat and you're too pore to afford the bus fare to the surgery?
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• #6214
Maybe, and fair enough. I agree it seems like a dubious excuse to me too.
It's just that it often strikes me that the banned list is so long and detailed, and over the counter drugs are so common and diverse that it would be very easy for an honest amateur athlete to show an adverse finding if selected for a random drugs test. I think tester has been assiduous in obtaining TUEs for some asthma meds, but for most of my sporting "career" the thought of checking the banned list wouldn't even have crossed my mind.
Still, that website that you linked is very useful - thank you.
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• #6215
Not really. As I said, check anything you take on globaldro. If that's too much work then don't race.
Also fact is; had he been to doctor and been prescribed prednisone, he would have been granted a TUE and wouldn't have been non issue. Thing is, he was taking it without prescription, so bye bye have a nice ban.
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• #6216
You probebrly couldn't afford an iPhone with super annoying autocorrect!
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• #6217
CTT still not made a statement. Pathetic.
So much for their 'just say no to doping' bollocks.
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• #6218
CTT still not made a statement.
Are you volunteering to be their PR? They are terrible at any kind of communication, it would be wrong to draw any conclusions about their attitudes and priorities from their sporadic and incompetent statements, other than that they don't prioritise public communications and that their attitude to competitors is that it's none of our business
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• #6219
I don't draw conclusions. But it would be good to make a statement.
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• #6220
Taking a steroid like pred is more likely to give you an ulcer, rather than cure one
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• #6221
Thought I'd check the Guardian to see if it carried any coverage of the recent racing, Tour of Catalunya and Ghent-Wevelgem and nada, just wall to wall articles about Wiggins and BC's woes.
I also checked the twitter feeds for all the most notorious anti-doping trolls: Vayer, Digger, Ross Tucker, Kimmage and a few others, to see if there was any outrage at a 37yo convicted doper dominantly winning the Tour of Catalunya or the Olympic Road race champion, who narrowly avoided a doping sanction in 2013, winning 3 semi-classics on the trot. Nothing, no mention of either apart from a tweet from Vayer celebrating GVA's win. There was a little chatter at the clinic but mostly it was Sky/Wiggins/Brailsford.
Now I'm not making accusations towards Valverde or GVA but those are the sort of performances the Twitter warriers take huge umbrage at....if the rider in question is wearing a Sky jersey. GVA's last twelve months is extraordinary and Valverde winning Catalunya despite a sanction of a minute in the TTT, taking three stage wins and even winning the sprint finish on the final stage against a very talented field at his age was also an amazing ride.
I never consider performance as proof, but the silence from Kiammage etal is deafening for two riders with very real shadows over them. It just stinks of double standards and you realise these people aren't objectively anti-doping, they pick their targets, likely due to personal bias and the amount of attention it will garner them.
Rant over
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• #6223
There was no evidence against GVA though and his federation's shizzle was overturned/denied/overruled/whatevs.
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• #6224
Yeah it was odd, I didn't look into the details but his own federation argued for a two year ban and all his 2012 results stricken, then all of a sudden he was acquitted. Anyone know more?
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• #6225
He was cleared because there was no evidence of doping. He'd been using a Doctor known as 'Doctor Ozone', who used a technique where blood is extracted, mixed with ozone, then re-infused. It's not really considered doping, quackery is probably the best description of the practice. Anyway, the anti-doping arm of the Belgian federation recommended Van Avermaet get a two year ban, but had no evidence to back this up so he was acquitted.
He was riding for a domestic Italian team the 2 years before he joined Sky so looks like he was introduced to the woo-woo 'recovery' methods Italian teams seem to love.