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  • Have a look at his results on Procyclingstats.com up to August 2011 in Spain and after

    : 0

    I see.

  • Ay caramba

  • Wouldn't he have been with Rapha back then?

  • As type 1 diabetic, is insulin banned from competitions?
    Never understood as pros are found using it to enhance they're performance, and of course, sanctioned.

  • No, there is a even a diabetic only (or it started as that) race team in US

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Novo_Nordisk

  • No, there is a even a diabetic only (or it started as that) race team in US

    It must be the Novo Nordisk team, I thought it was just the main sponsor, but apparently yes (just read now), the riders are all type 1 diabetic.
    So when riders are banned for using insulin it must be when the values are too high.
    When I was younger I was going to gym, and the trainer (with a past in bodybuilding competitions) told me the amount of insuline they were using.
    For a single workout he was using the same amount that I usually need in a week.

  • As type 1 diabetic, is insulin banned from competitions?

    utfs :-)

    Since insulin still requires a TUE, no TUEs means no diabetic athletes, which would be a bit of a blow to UCI Pro Continental team Novo Nordisk, which probably leaves your 'no TUEs' policy restricted to ProTour teams.

    They were originally called 'Team Type 1', which is the name of a diabetes advocacy NGO

  • [quote=mdcc_tester;4341991]
    Since insulin still requires a TUE, no TUEs means no diabetic athletes, which would be a bit of a blow to UCI Pro Continental team Novo Nordisk, which probably leaves your 'no TUEs' policy restricted to ProTour teams.

    They were originally called 'Team Type 1', which is the name of a diabetes advocacy NGO[/QUOTE]

    That's a little bit of a blow for anyone that wants to take part in regulated sports.
    The time I was diagnosed (almost 10 years ago) the doctor probably lied to me when he said the only thing I wouldn't be able to do was flying airplanes.

  • No, the take-away from the TeamType1/Novo Nordisk story is that you can participate in sport at a high level thanks to the Therapeutic Use Exemption system. You will need to jump through a few hoops to start with, but AFAIK a TUE for insulin for diabetic athletes only has to be reviewed every 8 years, so after the initial hassle it's not too onerous.

  • Tiernan-Locke's family start wailing in the local press;

    http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Shamed-Plymouth-cycling-star-Jonathan-Tiernan/story-21666800-detail/story.html#ixzz385HEaa4n

    The UCI's "shambolic" case was enough to convince the UKAD panel, clearly.

  • So biological passport show abnormality which equal doping.

    What was he supposedly taken during his career?

  • We don't know yet. None of the details of the case will be released until the appeals process has been concluded (Tiernan-Locke has a set period in which to appeal, if he doesn't then the details will be released).

  • “Why would he personally request a test which would incriminate himself further down the line?”

    Interesting point.

  • "he has never once failed a test,” Caroline added.

    Oof, the Lance defence wasn't a good call.

  • Here's a example of biopassport readings over last season published by Chris Horner to show he wasn't blood doping at the Giro, even though the results seem to strongly indicate he was. And he's just stupid.

    If your haemaglobin levels drop then suddenly rise, or hardly drop during a GT whilst your baby blood cell count (Reticulocytes) behave in a way suggesting new blood cells have been introduced to your system, you're probably doping.

    Likewise if your haemaglobin drops above or below the upper or lower limits they set for your passport based on measurements over time, that get your file flagged.

    So the trick with micro dosing seems to be to be able to keep your blood metrics within the upper and lower limits and also to have no suspicious patterns of readings within those limits.

  • “Why would he personally request a test which would incriminate himself further down the line?”

    Interesting point.

    I could ask to go onto the biological passport tomorrow, but no-one would pay any heed to it. Tiernan-Locke offered to go on it, knowing that the UCI hadn't extended it to Pro Continental teams and couldn't afford to do so, meaning there was the square root of fuck all chance of him actually getting busted.

    Furthermore, when he did go on it, he was then busted within a year after suspicions were raised about his initial passport figures, the assumption being that he was clean at Sky, not so clean beforehand, when he was winning races.

  • Here's a example of biopassport readings over last season published by Chris Horner to show he wasn't blood doping at the Giro, even though the results seem to strongly indicate he was. And he's just stupid.

    Why was he not popped then?

  • I could ask to go onto the biological passport tomorrow, but no-one would pay any heed to it. Tiernan-Locke offered to go on it, knowing that the UCI hadn't extended it to Pro Continental teams and couldn't afford to do so, meaning there was the square root of fuck all chance of him actually getting busted.

    Furthermore, when he did go on it, he was then busted within a year after suspicions were raised about his initial passport figures, the assumption being that he was clean at Sky, not so clean beforehand, when he was winning races.

    Also an interesting point. Reckon he didn't know he'd get picked for a ProTour team though? Surely that was his goal so why volunteer to give them data proving you're doping. Unless he thought, I'll get on teh sauce and show them that these are my normal levels and I can then continue doping or something?

  • Is anyone inclined to believe or disregard the Fanini allegations that Nibali worked with Ferrari?

  • Nibbles is certainly inclined to disregard them.

  • Why was he not popped then?

    “It is not 100 percent clear that there is anything untoward happening,” Parisotto told Velonation, “[but] there's certainly unusual patterns."

    UCI only proceeds with 100% clear cases. Like JTL.

    I think 3 different experts have to unanimously agree after the systems flags a file anonymously

  • Is anyone inclined to believe or disregard the Fanini allegations that Nibali worked with Ferrari?

    If you throw enough shit, then some of it sticks, or the Fanini approach as it's known in Italy.

    He's called out a lot of people, and been right on occasion, but no one has yet provided any substantive evidence against Nibali.

  • You misspelled Foffa I think.

  • Not doping because we're in the era of PED 2.0 but a 'nutraceutical':

    ∆G™ http://www.tdeltas.com/site/home.html

    It's a development from synthesised keytone monoesters similar to those produced when one fasts, or has no access to carbs for long periods.

    I guess the idea it a supplement that puts athletes into keytosis whilst they maintain a 'normal' athlete's diet.

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