Doping

excuse my naiveté, but is this article making insinuations beyond the low result? Could he have been just tired? I quite liked Roland in the last two tours.

"A low level of cortisol could be indicative of corticoid use or of fatigue."

But their rules are that the rider should be rested. Of course, he's not going to rest if he's not tired and is in fact feeling great because he's using cortisone..

If they'd said he pulled out because he was a bit sleepy it would have helped.

They seem to have missed out a 'W'.

JUST SAY NOW!

What's the current story on the 'kimmage' fund?

"A low level of cortisol could be indicative of corticoid use or of fatigue."

But their rules are that the rider should be rested. Of course, he's not going to rest if he's not tired and is in fact feeling great because he's using cortisone..

There are very few rules to go by on the MPCC site,
the case is clearly stated.
So it's a very clear concern, and well known to this selfregulated industry.
http://www.mpcc.fr/index.php/fr/mpcc
Bernaudeau is still smiling at the bottom of the page.

I did a quick check on daily variations of cortisol level on a health forum:
the samples should be taken from 7 to 9am,
it was stated as well that low cortisol levels can lead to sudden deaths.

What's the current story on the 'kimmage' fund?

Did you see the bit about Aaron Brown emailing Pat McQuaid giving PR advice last year before the fund was set up? And cc-ing the owner of Cyclismas? Who stood by as he became the only signatory to the Paypal account used to defend Kimmage from a McQuaid lawsuit? The account he stole from?

Ullrich confesses to blood doping with Fuentes but insists "I did not abuse Nutella"

My German is a little rusty I think.

The funny thing is that he apparently gave 'that' interview years ago but didn't permit another magazine to publish it.

There's an article in the German magazine Der Stern this week in which they mention that Ullrich apparently gave a four-hour interview to them in 2008 disclosing all. However, after giving the interview he changed his mind and has up until now not allowed them to publish it.

Ullrich confesses to blood doping with Fuentes but insists "I did not abuse Nutella"

My German is a little rusty I think.

My German is gone, but Ullrich always had good communication skills,
starting on the way up to Courchevel:
sold his victory to Virenque for a 100 000.
He lost 200 000 a year in 2006 when kicked out of his consultancy job by the ARD german state owned TV.
Should be the same year they stopped broadcasts of the Tour.
A long time asma sufferer, a fee of 25000 Eu to Dr Fuentes in 2004 emerged.
ADN tests showed his blood was stored there.

In his own words, Ullrich is just as big a cunt as Armstrong

everyone was using doping substances and I used nothing that the others were not using...you can only call it cheating on my part when it is clear that I have gained an unfair advantage...That was not the case. All I wanted was everyone to have the same chances of winning

Well, fat boy, if you knew for sure that everybody was doping, perhaps grassing them up at the time might have levelled the playing field. Did you ever think of that?

It wouldn't have. All it would've done was made him a grass.

To suggest he was as much of a cunt as Armstrong is ridiculous, but I'm guessing it was a glib comment rather than your considered opinion.

What he did at the time made him an idiot, the self-justification now makes him a cunt.

Still not as much of a cunt as Armstrong though. The act of doping itself and even the justification for it are not exactly paramount here. You can't even measure them on the same scale / with the same calipers.

Is Ullrich actually trying to claim that he wasn't on EPO in 1996/7? Surely not.

I certainly consider it credible that he was 'only' on blood doping in 2003-6. He was naive enough to perhaps believe that EPO was of the past.

I see the relationship between him and Armstrong a little like Blair/Brown--both the junior partners hopelessly compromised by association with the main guilty party (but, of course, still guilty in their own right).

Still not as much of a cunt as Armstrong though. The act of doping itself and even the justification for it are not exactly paramount here. You can't even measure them on the same scale / with the same calipers.

I believe Pevenage when he says that Ullrich stopped doping for a while after 1998. It sounds credible. No proof, obviously, but Ullrich isn't as cunning as Armstrong and would have worried about being caught (as Armstrong was, but I doubt that Ullrich would have been as brazen about covering it up).

Jan Ulrich is to Lance what Salvatore Tessio was to Vito Corleone.

Ulrich is also an arrogant twerp and a stingy tipper.

Better that than a reptile.

Or reptile-that-calls-people-crazy-but-doesn't-call-them-fat.

'he made me do it'

poor Ullrich, forced to do something he detested. Eat more and train less

http://m.sbs.com.au/news/#article1781460_Spanish-police-bust-sports-doping-gangs

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ullrich-wont-confess-to-more-than-blood-doping

I guess we'll still have to wait a while for the whole truth to come out. Does it ring true that he wasn't doped in his early years or is he just trying to protect his TdF title? Could his ride up to Andorra-Arcalis really have been without EPO? Definitely too good to be true.

Jan Ullrich - Andorra Arcalis 1997 - YouTube

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ullrich-wont-confess-to-more-than-blood-doping

I guess we'll still have to wait a while for the whole truth to come out. Does it ring true that he wasn't doped in his early years or is he just trying to protect his TdF title? Could his ride up to Andorra-Arcalis really have been without EPO? Definitely too good to be true.

Jan Ullrich - Andorra Arcalis 1997 - YouTube

There's no physical way someone of Ulrich's weight (about 12 to 13 stone I think?) could have got up those mountains the way he did back in the late 90's without assistance. Tyler Hamilton's book "The Secret Race" makes very interesting reading...... "Not normal"

As andyp said earlier:

Ullrich's racing weight, on those rare occasions when he achieved it, was around 72 kgs.

Still, it's akin to him racing up Alpe d'Huez with a courier bag with a lock, a laptop, some tools and a morning's supply of buns on his back.

72kg is about 11 1/2 stone (~159 lbs.).

Of course, later he got heavier and turned up for the Tour at 76kg or more (I think).

So is the suggestion that he needed to be on LFGSS and follow the weight loss thread, and if he had done so he did not need to dope?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/jalabert-tests-positive-for-epo-at-1998-tour-de-france

This is quite unbelievable. Shocking. Very distressing.