I want to get a dog but I have to work, how does everyone on broadway market do it ?

Looks like our fucker nearly took a branch or something to the eye earlier, or maybe a dog prison tat.

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Thanks. They get on most of the time, until Reggie’s had enough of her puppy exuberance and usually takes himself off to another room. Otherwise, lots of playing together, chasing balls, play fighting, etc. Good for tiring each other out.

They’re an awesome duo.

Thanks. She’s nervous around busy roads, which is not something I’ve experienced before, so lots of work going into that - meaning separate morning walks at the moment. We’re getting there…

We had a puppy that was very disliking of roads, exposure is the only thing.
I did find walking towards traffic better than with it, as it givers them a chance to see it coming.

Making him sit and plying him with treats worked well, especially if a bus or lorry came by, gave him something good to focus on rather than the fear.
Did take a few weeks of morning walks to get him over it.

(apologies if you know all this)

How do dogs know a fox is a fox? They see another dog from a distance, on lead or off, they're fine, but if they see a fox, they want to bark and chase. A fox is another canine, there's a family resemblance - why do they recognise them and react differently?

(This isn't an issue, just summat I'm curious about)

At a guess- scent.

Not an answer but my MiL had a Fox Terrier / JRT cross.
He was the chillest dog you could meet, ignored all other dogs, walked past cats without batting an eyelid, happy to have small children prod and poke with no reaction.

The slightest hint of a fox, he went full rage monster.
The fox terrier genes kicked in and he want to f them right up.

The way it moves, shape a bit, maybe scent if the wind is blowing right. How do you know it's a fox?

Definitely don't think it's just just scent, as mine recognise them from a great distance and react immediately on sight, no matter which way the wind is blowing. They'll react when the fox is stock-still, so maybe not movement either. Possibly (probably) shape, but foxes are pretty dog-shaped, and they don't react to 100 other different flavours of dog shape.

Don't even think they want to catch or hurt them. They just enjoy a bit of a chase and come back. Strange little innate instinct they have. May go back to generations of training to guard livestock and being bred to recognise foxes as 'the enemy'.

@DethBeard @ltc

That’s interesting about facial features/body language being harder to read. Makes sense.

It seems a bit odd to me, what with Odie being jet black himself. But then maybe that’s just me reading in to it as some sort of tribal thing when actually it’s just a practical issue!

Turning 16 next week.

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was lucky enough to be dropped slap bang in the middle of a county lines style drug deal in the park down here in Littlehampton at 8.30am this morning while it was just me playing fetch with benny off the lead.

couple of young London accented entrepreneurs come into the empty park w/ hoods up where it's just me and the dog and make a bee-line right for me. first thought is they're going to try and nick Benny.

Instead they walked past within a couple of feet of me (in a massive wide open field) and dropped something at the back of the park and immediately leave again getting into a shit boy racer car which had been sat watching us all which then crawls away at 2mph while they all stare at me through the windows but instead of leaving at the end of the road it then it parks in the drop-off car park for the daycare in the st johns hall next to the park, hidden behind a bush so they can see park through fence but aren't visible from the road.

at which point I cut our play-time short and went home.

things like this do make me worry about my partner taking him out in the evening and when my mum has him and she is down the beach at quieter times of the day as by design you tend to end up in the most isolated quiet areas when taking the dog out.

not really got a point, just opining on the weird shit that dog ownership entails you dont really think of typically.

No apologies needed, this is really helpful.

It's frustrating because she's excellent on the lead on a quiet road - great eye contact, slack lead, occasionally pulls if distracted but easily corrected. As soon as it gets busy, the noise and movement of traffic mean she loses focus on me and her lead discipline goes. I used a Gentle Leader this morning - it won't solve the underlying problem, but gives me more control to work on her confidence and "desensitise" her to the stuff that's worrying her.

In all other respects, she's full of confidence. Being one of 14 and then moved into a house with a boisterous staffy has made her bold and feisty (not in a bad way) around dogs. Her recall is pretty good and her love of chasing her ball makes her easy to exercise in the park without getting distracted by other dogs.

A work in progress...

There's a reason it always seems to be dog walkers and joggers that kind of stuff happens to.

If I had known you were after a dog book, I could have posted one with the watch...accidentally ended up with a spare copy of a really good one.

If you don't mind waiting a few days, I'll put it in the post to you.

@Stonehedge Sorry chap. Just saw this (been mad busy with work and not able to get "on here"). That's super kind of you. Happy to pay postage and/or make a forum donation if the offer still stands.

Sure, it's still here. Thanks for the reminder. Will post tomorrow.

Which book do you recommend? I was going to ask the Sam question as @Fatberg

Didn't grow up with dogs, all seems very daunting (worming, vaccination, training, pads, how far to walk etc)

Edit - question was the book question for first time owners before they get a dog. Didn't see too many suggestions. Is there an extended comment with a guide/ quick links anywhere like on the tubeless thread?

They get quite breed specific.
I like Lez Graham's Manners not Mayhem.
Pippa Mattinsons' stuff is good too.
Probably have a spare puppy book I could send your way- give me a PM.
(I also rate McCann's dogs on YT).

If you live near a Dogs Trust they tend to have a 4-6 week course on basic training.

We took Bosco to one last night for the first time (£50 for 4 sessions) and it seems quite helpful.
All the dogs were older than new puppies (Bosc is 8months) and had some basics down, but they do classes for younger/ less trained dogs.

Plus they are not an awful charity, so the money at least goes towards dogs care.

cheers both and will PM you @nobrows

+1 for Dogs Trust classes.

Even though we didn’t get our naughty dog from them they were a massive help. They let us do the class three times until he was comfortable being calm in a room with other dogs.

Missed upthread - do you have dog or are you getting one?
Happy to meet up with Odie if you want any easily manageable interactions with other dogs - he's boisterous/playful but not aggressive in the slightest and you won't have to worry about inter-owner diplomacy with me :-D
(Completely forgot where about you are now)

Cheers Alex! No not got one yet but maybe in next year or so. Still loving it?

Thoughts please...

I have a neighbour - three doors down - who is a class A cunt in every respect, including having had his kids taken into care after years of abuse. He used to have an American Bulldog (except it wasn't, he just liked to tell people it was). In the nearly ten years I've lived here, I could count the number of times I saw him take it out on the fingers of one hand. He also got another large dog that he never took out, ever... He was waiting for the harness he bought off ebay to arrive from China...

I bumped into him a few weeks ago and he told me he'd put the AB down as it was old, and given the other dog away because it was dangerous. No shit, never been socialised. But he told me he'd just bought three - yes three - Cane Corsos. I've had a Corso and they're hard dogs and need lots of exercise. He again said he wasn't taking them out because he was waiting for more harnesses to arrive. I doubt they're Corsos, as this cunt hasn't done a stroke of work in his life and they're not cheap dogs, but they still present a problem.

The dogs spend large chunks of the day in the garden howling and barking. This pisses everyone off, obviously, and will be worse in the summer with windows open. I suggested to him that he walks them to tire them out so they'll be easier to manage, but he really isn't interested and he couldn't care less about the noise. Now we could speculate on why this twat has dogs he doesn't want to take out, but I'm more interested in a solution that will bring peace and rehome the dogs where they can be happy.

RSPCA don't take anonymous reports of cruelty and will only take pets off an owner if there is obvious mistreatment. As long as the dogs are fed and have shelter, I doubt they will do anything. Lambeth also don't take anonymous complaints and a noise complaint requires recording of the noise which, since it's outside, is not going to sound all that on a mobile.

Now I don't worry for myself if he knows I've complained/reported - he's a little shit (although I wouldn't put smearing dog shit on my door handle past him) - and he wouldn't start on my sons, but he might give my daughter and partner grief and verbal abuse. So, I'm only prepared to go public if there's a good chance of success and I just can't see it.

Apart from venting on here, it would be good to know whether anyone knows how this could play out or has other suggestions.