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• #27
;1306413']Whatever the outer circumference of basic gas pipe is should be the max length of the head as it's somewhere around the 20cm mark.
Why outer circumference?
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• #28
By coincidence it was equal to a decent maximum length, something like 7 or 8 inches (at that time quite a few people were using quite long mallet heads). 2 dimensions summed up with one measurement.
We were also looking at the possibility of wooden warhammer mallets...
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• #29
really? I've only seen one in 3 years.
I've seen lots of gnarly crashes though and separately seen hundreds of l v r charges.
I've had 2 near misses this week from Dave practicing lob shots. High sticks and high balls are more dangerous than a charge that you know you are going into.
+1
Worst crash I ever saw, and resulted in serious, chronic head inury, in polo was a lefty vs righty charge.
worst charge i ever saw was idiot charging against idiot. If you go balls out and can't stop your a dick regardless of what hand you write with. Stupid rule.
exactly
Maybe before a game starts it could be highlighted that there is a left handed player on the team, instead of just simply outlawing it.
Anyway these are NA rules and I don't think Europe should necessarily have to copy all of theirs.
Let's start highlighting who loves to t-bone, who shuffles, who will lob the ball at your head, who will highstick backwards without looking....
IMO these rules are pretty flawed and I'm not sure why this just started from scratch. No uncovered chainrings? I mean, that's fine, but surely doesn't need to be a rule.
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• #30
Yeah what's with the chainring thing? does this mean everyone now has to have bashguard? I'm yet to see an injury from a chainring
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• #31
I think it referring to when there are two chainring. Exposed teeth could cause quite a bit of pain in a crash.
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• #32
Who is responsible for stopping? Whoever is slowest? What if people are going the same speed? Right on left charging is basically a game of chicken. Not a fan, but whatevs.
racist
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• #33
raycist. fucking lefty.
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• #34
I was about to write that!
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• #35
thought-jinx. You owe me a beer.
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• #36
You owe me cleats.
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• #37
I haz them. You can come grab them if you want. Don't think I'll be heading out to polo this aft. Maybe later tonight if stuff is happening.
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• #38
Come to polo. lame. It's not raining, supposed to all weekend.
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• #39
Busy. Procrastinating from work. So tiding up, gonna trim my hair, reading the forum a bit, listening to 8-bit Floyd, etc.. It's a busy day.
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• #40
i've updated the OP with the latest revisions, which address, for one, a dabbed player blocking a goal.
Have you measured the blue/yellow piping that a lot of people are using? Why do you think its unacceptable?
i believe it is 2 3/8", but the diameter i am actually more concerned with is the inner. anything larger than 2" inner and it starts to become bike jai-alai with scoops and snowcones
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• #41
No uncovered chainrings? I mean, that's fine, but surely doesn't need to be a rule.
i disagree- this is probably the biggest hazard on a bicycle. if you have double rings you should be running a bashguard or running your chain on the outside, failing to do so is far more dangerous than missing bar plugs, and there doesn't seem to be any dispute about that rule..
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• #42
Anyway these are NA rules and I don't think Europe should necessarily have to copy all of theirs.
We don't have to copy their rules, but if we are going to play N American teams more often, then it makes sense to converge & assimilate their rules.
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• #43
Yeah what's with the chainring thing? does this mean everyone now has to have bashguard? I'm yet to see an injury from a chainring
I actually did injure Gabes with my c/set. I am using a triple, and running the chain on the granny ring. The shoulders of the outer rings went into his achilles (which was quite painful!)
I think the bashguard rule is a good one.
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• #44
so, are you getting one Bill?
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• #45
I say good on them for putting it out there... rules like this need to be made... and changed.
... no where do they say any of the points are set in stone. I think these are pretty good IMO.
I think intent and ref judgement calls are a tricky one to pick up but has been worded in the right ways. (points 13.1 and 12.8)
I think the way a foot down defensive player in the goal stopping the ball with his/her foot could be dealt with in the same way....the referee may use his discretion to call the play a goal.
I don't like any rule that requires the ref to decide intent.
Sometimes inept or clumsy, but otherwise well-meaning players can be just as dangerous, and unfair, as a highly skilled, but malicious, player.
I think it is better to allow the ref to penalise dangerous or violent play, rather than have to decide whether a player meant to injure.
Not sure if I agree with Ray about letting the ref calling a goal when the ball hasn't actually crossed the line, but been blocked by a foot-down player or a thrown mallet. In my view, a goal should only ever be called when the ball crosses the line. Personally, I think that the offending player should be expelled from the remainder of the game.
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• #46
so, are you getting one Bill?
Well, I meant to get one weeks ago - in fact after my little tangle with Gabes. As it happens, I finally got around to it this week.
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• #47
really? I've only seen one in 3 years.
I've seen lots of gnarly crashes though and separately seen hundreds of l v r charges.
I've had 2 near misses this week from Dave practicing lob shots. High sticks and high balls are more dangerous than a charge that you know you are going into.
Really? How many people have had long-term, chronic memory loss, chronic neck pain etc as the result of high-sticking and high balls?
Who is responsible for stopping? Whoever is slowest? What if people are going the same speed? Right on left charging is basically a game of chicken. Not a fan, but whatevs.
+1
Leaving it up to the players is not good enough.
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• #48
i believe it is 2 3/8", but the diameter i am actually more concerned with is the inner. anything larger than 2" inner and it starts to become bike jai-alai with scoops and snowcones
If you want to make a rule that limits the ID to 50mm/2", thats a different debate entirely.
The blue/yellow piping we're mostly using is 62mm OD, which is within the US rules (but not your suggestion of 2 3/8", or 60.2mm). It also allows for a 14cm head with mikes 20cm rule, which is a pretty useful size. Its also coincidentally 50mm ID, which makes it pretty cool as far as I can see.
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• #49
Really? How many people have had long-term, chronic memory loss, chronic neck pain etc as the result of high-sticking and high balls?
None. But how many people have been injured (albeit less seriously) by unnecessarily massive swinging, or other high-sticking activities? Its fucking loads. Is it time we actually address that yet?
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• #50
None. But how many people have been injured (albeit less seriously) by unnecessarily massive swinging, or other high-sticking activities? Its fucking loads. Is it time we actually address that yet?
Personally, I am in favour of making high-sticking an illegal move.
Maybe before a game starts it could be highlighted that there is a left handed player on the team, instead of just simply outlawing it.
Anyway these are NA rules and I don't think Europe should necessarily have to copy all of theirs.