Investment & Investing

Statistically speaking, there are no good traders - most studies show their bets are no better than pot luck.

That depends what you mean by traders.

Prop traders can make money by (illegally) moving markets, or trading (illegally) off restricted knowledge.

Sales traders can trade off customer flow and take margin.

Market makers trade off liquidity and make money on spread.

High Frequency Traders (or the desks that own the algorithms) make money from arbitraging (as do other more traditional arbitrage traders).

I'd need to find the reference. Can't I just call everyone a banker and group them into the same basket of gambling idiots?

The collective name for banker is "soulless cunt" I think.

Banking is the casino owner in the gambling scenario.

I thinks it's Nate Silver in the "Signal not the Noise". He covers how hard it is for a trader to win all the time..

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/02/ibm-fires-small-town-workers-for-wall-street-numbers

Charmers

Stockmarket is getting hit hard with fears that World War 3 is about to breakout.
Seems like rather a good time to invest in just about anything.

We're all doomed anyway.

i would keep the cash for when bread hits £20 per loaf

i would keep the cash for when bread hits £20 per loaf

Probably already has in some parts of London.

ain't that the truth
made in the deepest parts of the borneo jungle
lives risked to bring it to the deli's and the good burghers of kensington and chelsea

Probably already has in some parts of London.

Only bespoke baked, artisanal, single-farm organic rye and pumpernickel hemp loaves so anyone without an E at the start of their postcode should be ok for a while.

Artisanal you say

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ok ethnic then

I buy the seedy packaged bread that's the same crap as the cheap stuff but in a different bag, designed to fool sheeple ino thinking that they're being all organic and middle-class.

In other news, I took the yeasty clump from the bottom of my homebrew which I bottled this week, added flour and baked it. It looked and smelled amazing. But there was an aftertaste of soap. What's that about? Sheesh.

Mainly its about the huge number of dead yeast cells in the 'trub' at the bottom of your brew, but also its because brewer's yeast has been selectively bred for centuries to make good tasting beer, not bread.

I thought it'd be worth a punt. Turns out, NO.

I've tried it too, I get the feeling it would be better to take a small amount of the live trub and feed it like a sourdough startet, to culture a healthy colony without all the dead yeast cells, but who can be bothered. In the home brew rthread, I'm going to ask you how your brewing is going.

I bought shares in hovis .. aka 'premier foods'

ouch painful lesson to avoid British manufacturing in all its forms.

I thought it'd be worth a punt. Turns out, NO.
it's that kind of attitude that lead to beer and bread being discovered in the first place
nice try

it's that kind of attitude that lead to beer and bread being discovered in the first place
nice try

I think there's an inherent desire in the human brain to get tiddly-poo on a nice hoppy concoction. Pretty much every civilisation has managed to find the recipe - often independently.

from a zerohedger article on GM
seems like they are having a tough time in the us at the moment
sell

Buy-to-let investments have outperformed all mainstream investments over the past 18 years, with annual returns of more than 16pc, according to a study. Former economist Rob Thomas investigated how much £1,000 would be worth now if it was invested in various asset classes in the final three months of 1996 – the year buy-to-let mortgages were first introduced.

He said every £1,000 invested in an average buy-to-let property bought with a 75pc loan-to-value mortgage was worth £13,048 in the final quarter of 2013, a compound annual return of 16.3pc.

These bumper returns were largely due to the mortgage, which “magnified” investors’ buying power in a process known as leverage.

A cash purchaser would have seen each £1,000 invested grow to £4,791 by the end of 2013 – a compound annual return of 9.7pc.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/buy-to-let/10788736/Buy-to-let-returns-top-allother-asset-classes.html

as
the comments below the article state the timescale chosen is quite beneficial to buy to lets but some people are working in this timescale

SO is it right or wrong time to buy a property in London?

whats your long term goal / short term goal

a home
an investment
a short term thing to get funds to get you home with cash in your pocket
a long term pension fund ?