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I thought you had to prove to the insurance people that your bike was well locked up when stolen. Could be talking out my arse though.
I also saw a front wheel locked with a granit extreme plus today, rest of the bike had been nicked. People are so fucking stupid. I'm going to try and start a bike locking education week in my uni next year. Hopefully get a bike shop to give a discount.
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Couple of the polo guys locked bikes to each other and not the fence, no photo but they were surprised looking when we rolled them away.
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Two things to say here; first, the front wheel is locked on with one of those five sided allen key things, so there is no way that could ever be removed by an unauthorised person, no way; second, the lock is one of those ones which is specially designed to be worn around the waist... there was a thread on here discussing them.
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Under the bridge by Shoreditch tube station a couple of weeks back. I'd love to know whether the owner had the sense to know that if you're not going to lock your bike properly you might as well get to keep the rear wheel, or whether there is a really stupid rear wheel thief out there.
Clearly, to get that rear wheel he has had to rotate the bike by moving the lock along the stand from one end to the other, while twisting the bike around. You think while going through that convoluted move it would have occured to him to just take the front wheel off and have the rest of the bike.... like you say, some dumb fucks out there (including both parties involved here).
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Under the bridge by Shoreditch tube station a couple of weeks back. I'd love to know whether the owner had the sense to know that if you're not going to lock your bike properly you might as well get to keep the rear wheel, or whether there is a really stupid rear wheel thief out there.
Well they stand a good chance of retaining the wheelset this way.
Mate of mine had a front wheel, and seatpost+saddle nicked. Having done the typical D-lock through rear wheel, and frame. Which TBH is enough up here. Crazy thing was. A decent spec MTB, with Fox fork etc. Was locked up like that^ one. In the same stand.
I think some people expect to just nick a wheel. So dont see the added oppertunity, in the heat of the moment.
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Yeah, I know what you are saying. Lock the front wheel and frame. This leaves the only the back wheel (forgetting the seat and post) available to a thief. The back wheel is relatively tricky to get off, particularly if you have gears - derailleurs. Despite this, though, if I only have the one lock with me I would still rather use it to directly lock as much value as possible to the stand, so that is the frame and the rear wheel. Annoying to lose a front wheel, but still cheaper to replace than a rear. I have not lost one yet, as I always replace the QRs with those five sided allen key things (see above). To be honest, I really don't know why QR are the default on bikes which are more often than not going to be used to commute and therefore require locking. I mean, what proportion of people need to be able to get a wheel off in two seconds? I digress.
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5 sided allen key thing? anyone got a link to one?
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Were you serious about the 5 sided alan key things, you can get them off with a screwdriver and some mole grips, I do it at work to change punctured tubes, they are an annoyance but far from secure.
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Pit locks are more secure, but there are always ways and means.
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the front wheel is locked on with one of those five sided allen key things, so there is no way that could ever be removed by an unauthorised person, no way
As snotty has said, this is rubbish. Any thief worth his/her salt would be able to get rid in seconds.
Despite what you think, this is terrible and indefensible.
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I thought that bit was sarcastic, with the extra "no way", must be sarcasm, shirly.
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Not so sure as Andrew also later posted this. But I don't know how he/she writes and am happy to give BotD.
The back wheel is relatively tricky to get off, particularly if you have gears - derailleurs ... I have not lost one yet, as I always replace the QRs with those five sided allen key things
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Not so sure as Andrew also later posted this. But I don't know how he/she writes and am happy to give BotD.
snottyotter is right, I was being sarcastic, the "no way" is the clue.
Chung, sorry, my later statement did rely on the first being understood as sarc. I do use those things, I am sure a screwdriver would be able to open them. But... I have not lost a wheel yet. I basically think they about as good as having the wheel nutted on, maybe marginally more secure. In the end, there is always going to be someone with a QRed wheel nearby, and most thieves will go for the easy take.
Yeah, the bike locked to the railings is a fucking disgrace.
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Just followed the link to the Pitlock thingies. £80! My wheels are probably not worth spending that much for the extra security. I reckon the five sided thing gives you enough edge over the bike next door with QRs, so that's as far as I go....
Oh, I should say, that most of the time, there are two locks round my bike, one through each wheel and frame. The skewer things are only there for when I do a single lock to pop into the chip shop for 30 secs or some such.
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Good service at your chippy.
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The best way to secure your bike really has nothing to do with locks or how you lock your bike, is to demonstrate due diligence in terms of taking the necessary precautions when buying "used" gear from unknown seller, like asking for the original receipt for instance.
Fact is virtually no one (read surprisingly few) gives a fuck as long as the price is right, yet we wont hesitate to bitch about our bikes getting stolen. Do you see the irony?
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Offer to "steal" it for him. Win Win :)