• Hanged*

    Hung is present tense. If you hang someone, you don't leave them there.

    Hang on, I don't want to get too hung up on this, but ...

    http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/hangedgloss.htm

    'Hung' is certainly not present tense, unless I don't get a joke that may have been intended, or you're talking about a different language. :)

    Anyway, it's one of those rules that you just have to get the hang of.

  • Hmmm, should I report it if there's no contact, or should I just molotov the offending vehicle?

    Obviously I'm joking, someone would have to be really unlucky to almost run me over then be spotted by me parking in the road next to my house...

    #Shiftyeyes

  • Fire!

  • In the face.

  • Hang on, I don't want to get too hung up on this, but ...

    http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/hangedgloss.htm

    'Hung' is certainly not present tense, unless I don't get a joke that may have been intended, or you're talking about a different language. :)

    Anyway, it's one of those rules that you just have to get the hang of.

    I would never joke about such thing's.

    I didn't know that hanged isn't strictly the past tense, it basically is through.

    I think anyone can say what they want, I don't mind people making mistakes, I can Spell nor have Vocabulary to tell everyone else what to say. But routine and widespread misuse of word's/phrase's is just annoying. And yeah, usage is ultimately the decider, but it doesn't alway's make it right.

    E.g. Most all Americans' say could care less to mean that they couldn't care less.

    That's just nonsense. Of course thier's loads of UK examples to. No what I meant?

  • T'roll. :)

  • Our club ride was ascending Toys Hill yesterday, when a passing truck pulled in on the climbers, hitting 2 of them. It was at the bottom, where the side of the road is a wall, so there was a real crush risk. The driver didn't stop, we don't know if he was even aware of what he'd done.

    A couple of drivers coming downhill saw it and stopped to give their details, and one of the riders got the registration of the truck. It's been reported, hopefully we'll see something done.

  • Ouch, I take it that they weren't badly hurt?

  • I seriously recommend you get yourself some cycle training before you get killed or seriously injured if that's your attitude. Seriously.

    I did say that I wouldn't do it myself.

    My point was more that someone taking a recumbent around Vauxhall Cross is hardly the kind of paragon of cycling safety to be berating others, when there are other, more appropriate, routes that he could could use in the area.

  • Are recumbents especially dangerous?

  • Our club ride was ascending Toys Hill yesterday, when a passing truck pulled in on the climbers, hitting 2 of them. It was at the bottom, where the side of the road is a wall, so there was a real crush risk. The driver didn't stop, we don't know if he was even aware of what he'd done.

    A couple of drivers coming downhill saw it and stopped to give their details, and one of the riders got the registration of the truck. It's been reported, hopefully we'll see something done.

    Glad everyone's OK. Sounds like you've got a good chance of seeing some action on that one, too.

  • Hey everyone, if you don't mind me posting this essay here I'd appreciate whether you think I should follow it up further, or any feedback e.g. as to whether I'm in any right to report this driver etc.

    I reported it to roadsafe although they said I should take this up with my local police station instead as I received threats.

    so here it is, as thorough as I could be arsed to be last friday

    At approximately 15:05 on 14/09/2012, I was cycling in the cycle lane on Great Eastern road (A11) between where the Great Eastern road junctions with angel lane (A112) and The Grove (A11), heading in the direction of The Grove (it's a one-way street).

    From the cycle lane, I have to cross 2 lanes of traffic to position myself in lane 3 in order to take a right turn at the end of the road. After looking over my shoulder and assessing that the traffic in the next lanes were moving at a constant pace, I signalled with my right arm and began to cross over the lanes. After crossing the first lane, the driver in question, in the second lane, sped up in such a way that if I crossed into his lane I would have been knocked off. Previous to this the driver had been driving constantly at a slower speed, so I interpreted this as the driver speeding up "so that he wouldn't get stuck behind a cyclist" or something to that effect, which frustrated me.
    I remained at the right edge of the 1st lane as the car drove past, and as he was doing so gave the driver a thumbs up gesture intended sarcastically, which he seemed to understand, and which he gestured in
    reply the same sarcastic "thumbs up".

    After the car passed me, as I was crossing in the 3rd lane I gestured my middle finger in an offensive manner at the driver I had just had the previous exchange with. At this point he stopped his car and rolled down the window, he still in the 2nd lane, me in the 3rd.

    I stopped next to him when I caught up, and initiated the conversation by saying something like "Cheers mate, thanks for speeding up just as I was crossing over."

    The driver informed me that if I stuck up my finger at him again he "would get out and punch me", and "would I like that".

    I replied by saying affectively that I would not like to be punched, although if he did I would inform the police on the spot.

    He then told me that if he sees me again here he was going to punch me.

    I take this route everyday, and can't help but thinking if this driver
    sees me again, what's going to happen?
    And I was constantly watching my back the whole way home and preparing to leave the road just in case the driver was behind me.

    Just before the driver drove away, turning left onto grove road, rather than right like me, I told him that I would be taking his license plate number down.

    There was another woman present in the passenger seat of his car,
    although I'm not sure if there was any passengers in the rear, and I did not speak to any other drivers/witnesses at the time.

  • I wouldn't worry about him coming after you, if he didn't punch you then and there it's extremely unlikely he will in the future.

    If it were me I would just put it down to one of those things that happens living in London, probably just wanted to look the big man in front of his wife/girlfriend/mother. On the other hand it would be nice if you could persuade a policeman to pop round and explain his behavior is not acceptable. I doubt they would actually prosecute him but it might be enough for him to know his card is marked.

  • Yeah, don't flick the bird if you're not looking for trouble.*

    Whether or not the driver was being silly you wont find any sympathy outside a cycling forum because you escalated the situation.

    *sorry if this sounds blunt and obvious in retrospect, I know how easy it is to get into these situations on the road.

  • @Vesalius

    The whole point is being able to look back and signal simultaneously to determine what is best for you. And for that you did very well. Many other cyclists would have looked and signalled as separate tasks and just maneuvered with potentially disasterous consequence.

    However you need to remember your signal is a request NOT a command. You don't have any right of way when switching lanes. Bear that in mind when deciding to take it up with drivers in future. Yes it is annoying he accelerated but not as much as the discomfort you'll feel watching your back when passing that stretch for the next week until you forget about it.

  • I would never joke about such thing's.

    I didn't know that hanged isn't strictly the past tense, it basically is through.

    I think anyone can say what they want, I don't mind people making mistakes, I can Spell nor have Vocabulary to tell everyone else what to say. But routine and widespread misuse of word's/phrase's is just annoying. And yeah, usage is ultimately the decider, but it doesn't alway's make it right.

    E.g. Most all Americans' say could care less to mean that they couldn't care less.

    That's just nonsense. Of course thier's loads of UK examples to. No what I meant?

    In the case in point, hang>hung is probably the original form, as irregular verbs tend to be older. However there is a tendency for irregular verbs (particularly those ending in 't') to be replaced by regular forms such as hang/hanged, simply because there's a system that you can learn with regular verbs that allows you to construct past tenses easily without having heard the past form already. Hence, dreamt becomes dreamed, learnt becomes learned, lit becomes lighted (in US English, mainly). It's been going on for a long time (Shakespeare switches between variants) and particularly before standard English was developed formally, both forms would likely have co-existed without any issues. Over time, many of these neologisms become accepted and the irregular form is lost. Likewise when new verbs are created, they are invariably regular in nature (text/texted or spam/spammed).

    Your example regarding Americans is more to do with sarcasm or irony, and their general lack of facility with this means of expression.

  • However you need to remember your signal is a request NOT a command.
    This.

    For it to be a command, you need hazard lights.

  • Hey everyone, if you don't mind me posting this essay here I'd appreciate whether you think I should follow it up further, or any feedback e.g. as to whether I'm in any right to report this driver etc.

    I reported it to roadsafe although they said I should take this up with my local police station instead as I received threats.

    so here it is, as thorough as I could be arsed to be last friday
    Don't mention that you gave him the finger or were anything by courteous and polite.

    Plod will use that as an excuse to a) not follow up in any way whatsoever, and b) charge you with a section 5 offence.

    And if you want to be cynical - mention that the bloke called you gay. And something racist.

    Popo loves a good racially aggravated / hate crime, as it ticks so many boxes for them.

  • Yeah thanks for the comments fellas, I'll probably just leave it this time then, no one was hurt and nothing too serious was done, we both antagonised each other so I should learn to chill out a bit more when on the road.

  • In the case in point, hang>hung is probably the original form, as irregular verbs tend to be older. However there is a tendency for irregular verbs (particularly those ending in 't') to be replaced by regular forms such as hang/hanged, simply because there's a system that you can learn with regular verbs that allows you to construct past tenses easily without having heard the past form already. Hence, dreamt becomes dreamed, learnt becomes learned, lit becomes lighted (in US English, mainly). It's been going on for a long time (Shakespeare switches between variants) and particularly before standard English was developed formally, both forms would likely have co-existed without any issues. Over time, many of these neologisms become accepted and the irregular form is lost. Likewise when new verbs are created, they are invariably regular in nature (text/texted or spam/spammed).

    Your example regarding Americans is more to do with sarcasm or irony, and their general lack of facility with this means of expression.

    Curtains are hung, people are hanged, it's just the way it is.

  • No, some people are hung. Maybe ask your sister for details.

  • Curtains are hung, people are hanged, it's just the way it is.

    both are drawn though.

    #nothelping

  • Some twat turned out of a turning on my right a short distance in front of me and a little too close for comfort (I was doing close to 30 mph). I aimed for his nearside corner assuming he would both accelerate and keep away from the kerb knowing he had pulled out in front of me but he did neither. I was too close to attempt to go round him and the kerb was looking like the 'best' option as I braked frantically. Luckily the road kicks uphill here and my speed bled off enough to avoid hitting anything.

    The green lights ahead changed red as he approached them and I expected him to jump them to avoid a confrontation but he duly stopped. When I got beside him and started talking to him he seemed surprised to see me there. I asked him if he'd not seen me when he pulled out. His response was to question where that was! He had completely failed to see me despite the road being clear of any other traffic including parked cars. I then told him his life story in 30 seconds flat and left him there to consider his bollocking.
    Oh, and he was a professional driver holder of the private hire disc of death.

    https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=blendon+road&hl=en&ll=51.446197,0.13042&spn=0.007195,0.021136&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=7.143542,21.643066&hnear=Blendon+Rd,+Bexley+DA5+1BY,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.446144,0.130485&panoid=le_TiO-OutNHsc38qFLcLQ&cbp=12,138.52,,0,13.43

  • Some muppet cabbie pulled out of the side street on the left here without giving way causing me to brake hard to stop going into the side of him.

    https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=51.492607,-0.17724&spn=0.022311,0.060639&sll=51.492553,-0.177368&sspn=0.011209,0.03032&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=51.492553,-0.177368&panoid=cdcNyopK15MtNzspz5i13Q&cbp=12,215.86,,0,7.2

    "Whoah!" I shout
    "Sorry mate, I wasn't paying attention. Hope you're ok" Was his response.

    Was it fuck.

    Guy immediately launches into a tirade of abuse at me saying because I didn't hit him everything was fine and therefore I'm a prick, cunt etc for taking any issue with it.

    Of course like a mug I completely forgot to take down any details. And I didn't have camera equipped because I'd forgotten to charge it during the day.

  • Guy immediately launches into a tirade of abuse at me saying because I didn't hit him everything was fine

    Essentially he's right. But even the slightest bit of contact would make it something the police would be interested...

    Obviously I'm not suggesting that any time some one pulls out on you, you should purposefully crash into them... But if there's no contact the most you can do is be a statistic on road safe.

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